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I also like her style and she knows what she's talking about as well.

Then I consider myself well-informed. And will take that under consideration.

Look, I'm not "commanding" anyone to do what I say. I just want to find what's causing the problem and fix it. "Because I say so" isn't good reason for anything.

You're picking on my making me "little records." OK, what about it? I've got $700 set aside specifically for that purpose--all the bills are paid, we have money set aside if something catastrophic happens, and if this project is a complete loss (it inherently CAN'T be a complete loss, more on that later), I can make that money back by playing 4 or 5 private party cocktail piano gigs. If it flops, my family still gets three hots and a cot every day. And I CAN'T lose, because for the investment I get a small amount of inventory. I estimate I can turn $700 into $4000, and I can sell 100 units just to friends and family…not to mention I could stand to make some good money just playing promotional concerts--so breaking even is NOT a problem. And I can potentially turn the promo concerts into a yearly event and earn an extra up to $2k a year just doing that. If I end up with a lot of surplus inventory, I'd just go to Amazon and sell until it all runs out if it turns out to be a flop. I MIGHT lose $700 if I sell absolutely NOTHING. I could gain UP TO $4000 if I sell EVERYTHING, and could pick up extra gigs for extra cash over and beyond that. Which would fully fund the next project.

Now, suppose I took out $10,000 on a second mortgage or credit card cash advances, put all into pro studio work, promo materials, etc., and couldn't even break even? Now I'm facing losing my house, barely keeping up interest payments, and possibly bankrupting my credit cards. I'm not prepared to accept that kind of risk, nor would I suggest anyone else try it. I'd never suggest any kind of debt to raise investment money. My goal is to cash-flow EVERYTHING I do, and that's only AFTER all the bills are paid. That way, I can afford to risk a failed project without myself or anyone else associated with me feeling that much of a sting from it.

Oh, and obviously I'm not planning to fail. I plan to do good work and give people their money's worth. Thing is, nobody PLANS to fail. But when dealing with risk, everyone needs an exit strategy they can live with. My strategy is to set a minimal investment and only expand my inventory IF there's a demand that justifies it.

In a perfect world, I'd use the impetus of album releases and promo concerts using as many free resources as I can to earn an extra $25k a year, assuming I couldn't do better, and pay off all our college loans and eventually get school paid for our own kids--that would be my 5-year plan, anyway. If it's really rockin' and rollin', I might have to put more money into extra resources (lighting, sound, etc.) and hit larger venues. But that's seriously long-term and my magic 8-ball isn't giving me straight answers in that direction. So I'm being realistic and dealing with what I CAN predict and what risks I can afford to take. I can do $700. I MIGHT be able to do more than that, but I'm not doing anything I can't cash-flow myself. What's important to me isn't even the money, anyway…just making music and sharing that with others. Every time I sell a CD, a download, or play a concert, I'm just asking for money so I can continue doing what I enjoy doing. That's all. And if I'm making enough money to do bigger and better/badder things, we ALL benefit--because now I can afford to do the kinds of shows I really WANT to do and accommodate bigger audiences (heck, I already play to audiences of a few hundred every week and even get time on TV--so once I'm independent from low-cost/no-cost resources and venues and could hire a crew to do what I want, things could get really amazing. But I won't be heartbroken if I never get there…that was never my goal. It all depends on how things go, and I'm just trying to pull in an extra $3k-$4k right now.

So, what would be helpful isn't to tell someone "YOU CAN'T DO THAT," but rather "Sure, you COULD do that, but you need to…" I mean, even if I thought you were serious, I can't afford to take anything that sounds defeatist very seriously. What I want to hear is what is going to give me results, not something that's going to discourage me from doing what I know CAN be done. There are people who WOULD do stuff if they for once just thought that they could. If they honestly believe they CAN'T when the opposite really is true, then there's no point in letting them whine and complain about it and validating them. If all they get is validation, then there's so much they COULD do they'd find more fulfilling, and we do them no favors by not encouraging them.

If all the problem is that someone just flat doesn't WANT to do anything about their situation, then there's nothing anyone can do for them. I think it's perfectly understanding if people find that annoying.

By the way, I hope you are not thinking that what I'm saying is that people should sit back and whine and not challenge themselves for their whole lives, I'm just saying that I think sometimes for a while that may be necessary for them, but mostly I'm saying I think people who aren't just sitting back and whining are being accused of doing that.

Already responded in kind. My bad!! !

Well, on this point I agree. I've been there, too. I've been through some crap before and usually go to The Haven with those issues. The trouble is, as pitiful as things are for me, it usually ends up being FUNNY. But whatever… People who respond in that forum in my experience are some of the sweetest folks on WP.

Maybe SOME people are unduly being accused of doing that, but the issue that I have is some of these kinds of things just seem to go ON and freakin' ON. OK, so you just want attention…I can't feel sorry for you anymore, ok? That's basically how I feel about it.

I'm sorry, I really wasn't picking on you, I think what you are doing is pretty cool (I would love to be able to make a record, but I'm not musical). I love music though.

I was just role playing somebody telling you what to do. And do you see how you reacted to it? That's how people feel when you or anyone tries to tell how they should be living. I'm really not in disagreement with you at all, I think people should strive for what they can and I also think anybody who has the remotest change to be independent should go for it, but only they understand how it is to walk in their shoes.

Anyway, I'm not the one being called defeatist, it's not myself I defending, but I'm seeing a lot of this on this site. I'm 52 and I support myself and have nobody to take care of me but myself, but even though that would be considered successful by a lot people's standards, I still know what is to struggle with things that an average high schooler would probably do with ease.

I've been thinking a lot lately about a thread Ezra started not to long ago asking if he should continue struggling to fix his mutism. My first thought was, if you don't speak you will be severely limiting yourself for the rest of your life. But the more I think about it, this isn't written in stone. If speaking for someone is constantly difficult and painful, whether that be psychically or physically painful, is there not a point where they can just say F it, I want a quality of life? Does that mean they're self defeating?

I'm not saying Ezra should quit trying either (that's up to him), I'm just saying maybe some day that will be his decision and if it is, I think he has that right, him or anyone. There was a time when someone would have been thrown into an institution for not speaking, but Ezra and others have a chance to go out and show the world that it means very little because he is who he is and he has his own contributions (in his case, many contributions to make to the world).

I just think this be like me or be like everybody else or hold yourself up to my standard of living whatever that might be, is a tired and old way of thinking. A person who suffers pain from speaking may greatly enhance their ability to contribute to the world by not forcing themselves to do it, they mental and physical energy can then go into way more important things.

But you know what I mean, speech is just an example.

I mentioned this before, but there were some people here that I dreaded seeing posts from, I wished they would just STOP, but now they kind of got over or through it and really enjoy communicating with them. I can think of at least two.

What kind of music do you make anyway? I know what a struggle it is, I haven't finished my novel and will probably self publish it when I do. But getting there is half the fun, I think.

Yup. One thing I find I still struggle with, despite the apparent absence of my autism, is how in conversations with 2 or more people I can get my word in; I always struggle to find the pauses, but the pauses always getting taken by someone else. I then start to see the conversation drift away from what I wanted to say, and in desperation and frustration interject aggressively, making my point.

Wow, I gotta say, that is the kind of thing that can inspire frozen Autism people to get unfrozen. Not even necessarily musicians, but it's just helpful for people to know that we can accomplish things and some of us have. There should be a sticky for people to post the success and further journey stories (because continuing to go forward is important too). Anyway, good luck with your projects!

verdandi was spot on.
if it isnt known already am low functioning autistic by traditional standards;intelectualy disabled and have experienced incredible prejudice, discrimination at the typing hands of elitists who think we are inferior autistics and don't belong here.

whenever the cure topic comes up;the ignorant and elitists will always defend the rights of autistics to live as they want to live without a cure; but those of us who are 'low functioning' shoud be cured,the autistic community shoud be defending everyones right to live how they want and stop assuming we live lives of misery.

KingdomOfRats, it has occurred to me that some people may be afraid to communicate honestly with you because they do not want to hurt your feelings or cause a meltdown or whatever, and there is definitely an altruistic motivation behind that, but also it may be a form of enabling (meaning in the sense of the definition I have given here).

OMG, I know you can't really read people's posts without relating them to your own self importance, but this is the most oblivious you have ever been. Great try trying to make her feel bad by insinuating "some people" are aligned with you against her.

Thanks.Some people might call your message trolling--but if trolling is with malicious intent, then I do not think it is that, exactly. Sincerely, what I could have said is that I myself was afraid to communicate, etc. (though not for the reasons mentioned about others, exactly) and now no longer am afraid, thanks to you and the yet another imo a tad but not very clever GESTALT thread you wrote in reference to some ideas expressed about boiling over with anger which I do not believe you are or KingdomOf Rats even is, for that matter. I do have faith that KingdomOf Rats will be consciously and actively able to process the material I have written so far and also what I will be writing in the future, though, of course, she may disagree with the idea content, and I may very well be wrong in the way I am seeing things. This is what enquiry is for, to sort stuff out..

Let it be known that my aim to which I have dedicated my entire life at this point is for as many people as possible to feel as good as possible with as little harm as possible and as great a benefit as possible to all present and future generations. Again, thanks, and please keep tuned, as I have just begun writing that message..

KingdomofRats is the woman!

I'm pretty sure she's able to express her feelings without you reinterpreting them for her,....

but condescend away I've said my piece.