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08 Oct 2007, 1:54 pm

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I personally think Ticker chose her words based on her knowledge of you, carefully, to needle you and put you on the defensive...

Don't let it work...you have NOTHING to defend here.

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Oh i know. i just think its completely absured on her part. its a good thing ive never met her and this has finally cemented the deal, i'll never meet her. She seems extremely bitter and butthurt about her life and has to make others feel as bad as shes feeling because its not fair that she has 16 illnesses and still works and someone who she doesnt even know, but knows enough on a message board about them that she thinks they can work. and why arent they? please. get outtof my face with that bs


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08 Oct 2007, 2:17 pm

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yes, it probably is a lot less. I read a short story once about someone with tinnitus and it sounded much worse than what I had. The minute I let go of trying to live with my mother and brother, I felt better about everything. It is like my brain clicked off things for me. I can't eat cheap chocolate or crunchy starchy food since. I feel comfortable with myself.


I wish I couldn't eat cheap chocolate. :(

Seriously, individual vocational assessment of skills and limitations is a fight I have been fighting since 1998, and it cuts ALL ways...you might not be considered for the job you do because you are an Aspie and someone decides no Aspie could cope with it!

A big part of the problem for Aspies are that the kind and combinations of concessions we need tend to be the opposite to those anyone else needs (as well as anything the NT could tolerate).

For example, most people with disabilities and special needs are more comfortable as part of a team, most of us need to be kept as far away from teams as possible.

The formulae for special needs placements that work, at least to an extent, to anyone else's benefit, are likely to work to our detriment, and people refusing to recognise that is what keeps a lot of us on welfare for life.

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08 Oct 2007, 3:47 pm

im 23 and still need help and assistnce.



08 Oct 2007, 6:45 pm

Look at Gates. He's more Aspie than just about anyone -- and look how he's livin'. Come on people Aspieness is about being smart and creative. Look at Einstein! Wilhem Reich! Aspies are the ones sent to create new things and save the world.[/quote]

Yet another example of a stereotype of aspies. Not all of us are geniuses.

So what am I because I am not that smart and creative?

I have met lot of aspies online and lot of them have low paying jobs like I do and they weren't Einstein or Bill Gates like. And besides Einstein wasn't AS, he was more HFA because he had a speech delay and aspies don't have speech delays unless there was a reason why such has hearing loss.



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08 Oct 2007, 6:49 pm

Who's Wilhelm Reich?

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08 Oct 2007, 7:09 pm

My mom always confused me, because she would do some things like this for me but then emotionally treat me like s**t afterwards about other stuff.. I dont know how to feel about her sometimes. Even when she does go to professionals for something, she always makes it out so she appears to be the innocent one :roll: .. But anyway, I want to be independant, but whenever I try I always fail.


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08 Oct 2007, 7:10 pm

Guys, has it ever occurred to you Ticker might be lacking her theory of mind? So she pushed herself to be independent and fight through her disabilities and cancer so she thinks if she can do it, everyone else can too. Autistics do tend to think people think just like them so they expect everyone to be just like them. "If I can do it, so can you."

I don't think Ticker was whining about her cancer. I think she was just using it as an example of how she didn't let it stop her from having a job and succeeding. She doesn't want to be dependant on the gov for free money and she isn't going to let her cancer and her AS stop her from being successful so she is stating if she can do it, then so can the rest of us. I do agree but we just need to find the right kind of job that suits us.

I kept applying for jobs and never gave up and no one would hire me because I was in special ed or because I didn't have any work experience. No places here in Portland have called me for an interview expect for hotels. I decided to apply at hotels again because I knew there be a higher chance they call me because I worked in a hotel back in Montana and I was desperate for a job. I was having problems with SSI and I had to pay my aunt and uncle rent every month so I was under lot of stress everyday so I got desperate and decided hell with it, I will apply at hotels again if I have to because then I might get a job at one of them and I did. A few others have called too and I turned them down because I already gotten one. Now I am under a lot less stress now that I am working full time and earning my own money but I get help with medical stuff because I am under care Oregon. Plus I have my parents in case I need their help. But I try to do things by myself but if it gets too much, then they help.



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08 Oct 2007, 11:06 pm

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You are right. In the past AS was sink or swim and most people found a way to swim even though they floundered many a time. I floundered many a time. I had the door closed in my face so many times trying to get my first job that it was disheartening. But I kept trying. All you have to do is kept trying and try till it hurts and things will improve.

Look I'm not that high functioning, probably middle spectrum... I have 16 different illnesses. One of the illnesses is an autoimmune disease that usually kills within 10 years. I have had 4 head injuries and struck by lightning twice. As if that wasn't enough someone's service dogs attacked me and I am in my 5th month of physical therapy because of that. I am in constant freakin pain. Some say I have had bad luck and I can't disagree with that because I still wonder what I did to deserve all the illness and injury. But thing is I keep going. You gotta keep going.



Ticker, I must say your stamina is impressive. I have AS and some other minor issues, a bone spur that makes me want to cut my foot off, allergies that make me look like a crying fool at times even out in public (I hate it when that happens) and occasional headaches that makes me want to cut my head off but I still work 2 jobs because I'm determined to keep on going. Like what you said "...thing is I keep going. You gotta keep going." If I had been struck by lightning twice, I think that would do me in to the point of being burnt out with it all..lol.

As for the subject of this thread, I do rely on my parents a lot and live with them but they rely on me for different things too. I just moved in with them a little over a month ago but was on my own before that but it's a long story as to why I moved in. It's kind of stupid though because I'm 43! I am trying to keep as much of my independence as possible though, if I can do that then I may get back out on my again, not sure yet though. That depends on a lot of different things, including how my parents and my sister are doing and how they're doing with her. She doesn't and can't work, no doubt about that.



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09 Oct 2007, 1:18 am

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I have 16 different illnesses. One of the illnesses is an autoimmune disease that usually kills within 10 years. I have had 4 head injuries and struck by lightning twice
i highly doubt this, should i act like ticker? i think i should. i think your lying, i wanna see proof of all these conditions you mention. by a medical doctor. in this thread


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09 Oct 2007, 2:03 am

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But my father and I are Aspie examples of being able to work despite our noise sensitivity.


I could not, no matter what, stay on any job where they have radio's and other noise-polluting in the workspace. I am lucky, constant radio noise-pollution isn't common in ICT, but I doubt a store would turn off their musac for their bagboy, nor would your co-workers on a construction site.



09 Oct 2007, 2:11 am

I was lucky employees at work respected me so they didn't get mad at me when I wasn't folding linen because they were all laughing too loud at the same time. I don't work in noisy sitations because I am mostly by myself and when there are functions, I am only dealing with the crowd and noise for a few seconds as I go through to get to the restrooms to clean. But my sensory issues aren't that severe, only mild, I'd say very mild. Would ear plugs help?



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09 Oct 2007, 4:54 am

Regardless of whether it is true or not whether someone can or cannot work, this so-called “tough love” attitude is unhelpful, condescending, and just plain uncalled for. If someone claims that they are trying to motivate someone to change by making hurtful comments they are either dishonest or ignorant/delusional. I usually assume it’s the former (they are not trying to help). In that case if you don’t have anything nice to say then STFU. Seriously!

I never understood the logic if trying to “toughen” someone up by insulting them. I know when I am in a rough spot and someone tells me I’m just “weak” the first thought that comes to my mind is “so what”. What’s the point of pretending to be a “tough guy” while you are struggling? Just so other people won’t label you weak? Life is short. Most people work a crappy job just to have the right to stay alive and then they die. Are people motivated to work just so they will appear tough and won’t get insulted and called lazy by some jerks on the internet? Or is their motivation just to get through the bad stuff and look forward to the things they enjoy?

Unfortunately sometimes there are points in life where things get so hard that it is impossible to find anything to enjoy. When you’re in this place the all the “be tough” advice in the world isn’t going to do sh*t for you. If you have never been in this position you don’t have the right to make judgments. I know that if I never accepted assistance from my parents I wouldn’t have a very good life. In fact I might not even be here today if not for their support.



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09 Oct 2007, 7:58 am

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Ticker wrote:
I have 16 different illnesses. One of the illnesses is an autoimmune disease that usually kills within 10 years. I have had 4 head injuries and struck by lightning twice
i highly doubt this, should i act like ticker? i think i should. i think your lying, i wanna see proof of all these conditions you mention. by a medical doctor. in this thread


I don't want to be unkind, but I agree with Richard, this statement just REEKS of Munchausens to me...

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09 Oct 2007, 8:09 am

mechanima wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
Ticker wrote:
I have 16 different illnesses. One of the illnesses is an autoimmune disease that usually kills within 10 years. I have had 4 head injuries and struck by lightning twice
i highly doubt this, should i act like ticker? i think i should. i think your lying, i wanna see proof of all these conditions you mention. by a medical doctor. in this thread


I don't want to be unkind, but I agree with Richard, this statement just REEKS of Munchausens to me...

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It reeks of something else to me....



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09 Oct 2007, 8:48 am

you know its funny. im just using the same criteria shes using against me, an observation on a internet message board with alot of assuming involved. i doubt she can post proof of all those conditions though, has she even posted her photograph? i can actually post proof of my disability and have done so here. social security just doesnt go by your word on being disabled, they look you up and down for a real long time to actually make shure if you are or not. so rest assured people i am not ripping you off


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09 Oct 2007, 9:19 am

I just read this whole thread. I'm glad that some other folks finally see what I see in Ticker - a troll in denial.

richardbenson, you are the most supportive and inspiring person on WP. Your posts always make me smile. You are honest about how hard you work on your own attitude, and you go out of your way to give people the benefit of the doubt and make them feel welcome here. As far as I'm concerned, you are what WP should be about.

WP is suffering because of people like Ticker. I saw how she attacked the Ritvos when she got turned down for their research project on AS. She was all keen to volunteer, and then when she got rejected she turned around and started trashing them like she got dumped romantically or something. I never used to question anyone's AS diagnosis here, but she's one of a few whom I seriously doubt. There are several people on here now who claim to have AS but who actually behave like they have anything and everything but. They ruin the vibe and bring people down. It sucks.

I sure miss Kosmo. There was no one better than him for filtering out the BS.