Is HFA misdiagnosed as Asperger's?

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If you are 90% neurotypical, I wouldn't consider that to be an aspie.

People are free to disagree with me, but I expect the right to express my own views and experiences as well as the right to be what I am, a "mild" AS. Yes they do exist no matter what the glass eyed tractor brains want to believe. Mild AS is such a stupid term though. There needs to be a new, separate diagnosis for people who started off relatively high on the spectrum and moved rapidly even higher. These people are very different in terms of theory of mind, social interaction and the presence of NT traits, because they are predominantly NT.

Zoonic, why not just say you are an NT?

Is that what you would like? First I don't particularly even like the color pink. I like purple. I don't idolize Bill Gates nor do I idolize Einstein. I am what I am. By the way, I find your insults bland and boring. I've grown up around people like you so to me it's all just a big yawn and shrug. Your approach is just standard and predictable.

The more I talk back, the more you will try to insult and fuel even more fire. Yeah I'm already aware of that so you might be thinking, why are you doing it? I'm finding your approach so similar to another person with your same problems to be uncanny.

I wonder what would happen if the two of you got together. I'm sure both of your narcissitic sides would clash.

Anyways, you really have to work on this lack of creativity you have. Pink teddy bears? Come on.

Because it is nice to have a label to blame your bad behavior ( for a lack of a better word) on.

Zoonic seems like a really angry person.

Because I'm weird and have a few clear aspie traits? Even though I have most NT traits I still, like Marshal explained, get bored from most normal friends.Nothing is good enough for me.

In a way, it's also convenient to blame my current life situation where I've given up on school etc on AS; but tbh I think I'm just plain lazy and totally self obsessed. All I want is nice things and various forms of pleasure. Despite being spiritual I am rather decadent and I never even saw why it was necessary to adapt to a normal life, I always had these grandiose dreams and visions of myself being a prince with birthrights. It doesn't match reality of course but I still live by my vision as far as possible, I have different needs.

I think I should just scrap the AS thing all along and start identifying as decadent lowlife instead. People aren't really my problem, structure is. Society, social expectations. Not people or basic interaction. Asperger might be a way of trying to excuse my existential problems. I got the diagnosis as a 12 year old and even though I doubted it and fought it all my life, a few years ago I started to feel it would be convenient to blame my situation on it. If people here I have AS diagnosed they will also assume my AS is what keeps me passive and existentially depressed so I figured why even try to fight it? I could use it instead to make my life easier.

But the thing is, an NT can be weird and have a few Aspie traits and still be an NT.

I agree.

Medical diagnoses are made for people with impairments and/or for those that deviate from the norm noticeably or significantly past as much as present.

I expect that everyone else who says they need a diagnosis have issues with themselves. There's no reason for these people without a disorder to be medically diagnosed and put into a category.



If they want diagnoses and be categorised nevertheless, I wonder if it is to define themselves, form an identity and stuff because they cannot do this themselves?

That's why I don't know why Zoonic is going on about how others supposedly define themselves by AS?

So far I gathered that he wants a diagnosis of a PDD, to have himself categorised accurately for the world to know and to be sure of his personality and identity despite that he says that he does not have AS and accuses others of needing a diagnosis to define their identity.

Confusing?

Maybe you are NT with depression or have a certain temperment. I think my temperment is to blame for some of my predicament, along with AS. I have what you could describe as a "slavic temperment".

That's true. I know 100% that if it hadn't been for my extremely violent outbursts and rampages (read the adult section, I made a thread there a few days ago) I would never have been put in contact with the child psychiatry. I would have been a weird kid, nothing more. Most aspies don't attack people physically and destroy everything around them, while screaming for hours.

I am always amused by the all or nothing mentality of AS vs NT. There are a large number of genes involved and the number that have none or all is probably relatively small.

Zoonic is going through a personal battle of self-awareness, we all do this along our journey to a fuller understanding of the Autism spectrum and genetics. He will learn that “more or less” or “better or worse” only have meaning if you view Autism genetics as a negative. Being diagnosed relatively late in childhood makes this journey more “difficult”. Talking it out is very valuable so I commend him for this and as he lets go of his anger and embraces the gifts that he and all others on the spectrum have been given and learns to make the choices as to what portions of the NT world he will choose to embrace rather than clinging to that need to be mainly NT which is engrained in so many AS children during childhood he will find the relaxing comfort of being an aspie. So do not be so harsh on him we all have or will be where he is now.

bookwormde

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Aspies disgust me, I don't want to be like them. I wanted to kill every aspie I met in real life. I felt they were inferior and I intuitively hated them.

I just want to be myself without ever having been diagnosed. I was diagnosed at 12 and it didn't help me in any way.

If I'm ever in a position to do so, I'm going to commit genocide on people who are on the spectrum.

Well, I never attacked people physically but I often cried for hours in the evening (not screaming but crying and carrying on). More often than not I was thought of by others as a coward type who was afraid and worried about everything. I was sorta timid. People have noticed I haven't much confidence. A lot of the problems I have they think I can easily control and I am using excuses but it isn't true. When I don't want to be somewhere there's little I can do to go. Maybe with supportive people it would be easier but I haven't had many of those in my life. That was while I was living with my mom but once we stopped living together everything improved substantially. No more crying.

I don't spend that much time in the adult section of WP so I haven't seen your post there.

Maybe you just get stressed out too and have to identify the sources and try to minimalize your exposure to them?

Yes the anger will pass once you realize what a gift you have been given despite tha challenges it has and will continue to give you.

bookwormde

No the anger will never pass since I felt the diagnosis was wrong and I couldn't identify with most of the criteria, ever since I was diagnosed.

I had this anger for 13 years and I will keep being angry about it until the day I die.

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Needing to belong to a collective identity and trying to recruit other people into the said identity has nothing to do with AS or "theory of mind". 99% of NT's behave the exact same way. I'll bet if you went to a support site for hemorrhoids every one would be wanting to believe that your hemorrhoids were just as painful as theirs even though you only claim to have mild hemorrhoids that itch slightly but don't cause you serious pain. They want to see people that identify with their pain.