Are highly intellectual aspies different than other aspies?

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You sound like a great mom. Neurodiverse!
Really creative on sending her with 3 cushions

maybe we are

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That was my animal!
I think a pack is forming

Yep...a pack that likes each other

I think that the HI Aspies are perhaps less likely to internalise oppression than others, or if they do internalise the stigmas at all, they do so in a different way, not regarding themselves so much as hopeless or broken people, but seeing the interplay between imposed oppression and internalised oppression.

I don't understand what you mean

The human means, "I think high function autistic people are less likely to feel bad about themselves or feel oppressed (Or feel oppression is warranted) based on the society than others. They generally don't see themselves as broken people."

Was my translation good enough?

A summary of internalised oppression:
"
What is internalized oppression?

When people are targeted, discriminated against, or oppressed over a period of time, they often internalize (believe and make part of their self-image – their internal view of themselves) the myths and misinformation that society communicates to them about their group. Exploited peasants might internalize the ideas that they can’t do any other kind of work, that their lives were meant to be as they are, and that they’re worth less than people with wealth or education. Women might internalize the stereotype that they are not good at math and science, or people of color might internalize the myth that they are not good workers,

When people from targeted groups internalize myths and misinformation, it can cause them to feel (often unconsciously) that in some way they are inherently not as worthy, capable, intelligent, beautiful, good, etc. as people outside their group. They turn the experience of oppression or discrimination inward. They begin to feel that the stereotypes and misinformation that society communicates are true and they act as if they were true. This is called internalized oppression.

Internalized oppression affects many groups of people: women, people of color, poor and working class people, people with disabilities, young people, elders, Jews, Catholics, immigrants, gays, and many other groups."

I feel all of those things very deeply. I internalize everything and I am considered extremely high functioning. But I am very affected by those kinds of thoughts and feelings. Maybe other HFAs are not so much but I really am and so much so that I can become completely non functional because of the overloads of those feelings.

interesting observation.

so do you think that is inherent? learned? family upbringing?


and thank you. your pm was the push I needed to post, although not your intent. This blogging is intimidating to me.

My guess is that pattern spotting may be a talent that highly intellectual aspies combine with analytical ability, and possibly - if so - this may enable them to look at the bigger picture of cultural impacts on minorities.

This is a really interesting thought. May I ask how you developed this line of thinking?

Obervation mainly. The most accomplished highly intellectual AS people I know have these abilities to a pronounced extent, and some of them were my peer group in my university work.

So would you say that these poeple have mostly benefitted from their AS? And if so, does this translate into most spheres of their lives, academic, relationships etc.?

Have you observed any particular self-preservation techniques these people all utilise or is just a case by case basis?

One ended up in an important role at Caltech. One is a prize-winning writer. One is retired and now lives in Thailand after a successful career in Critical Theory as a senior lecturer. One is a sports and travel journalist. One is a composer and conductor with a major national orchestra. One retired from academia and brought a run down vineyard and turned it into a successful winery. One is a professor of electrical engineering and head of department at a major university.

They had different preservation techniques, but the one feature they all shared was being able to identify and play to their own strengths, and to keep going toward goals no matter what others thought of them.

Yes, I would say they definitely benefited from the kinds of abilities they had from their variety of AS, bearing in mind that AS is a heterogenous category, so I am not implying that this level of outcome is easily available just by being on the AS spectrum.