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04 Apr 2011, 7:07 pm

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Of course they would be wrong. You have already decided you have the syndrome and will accept nothing else. You will doctor shop until you find one that will agree with you. I'm finding this is the pattern with many that self diagnose.


And, where, exactly, are you finding this pattern?

IIRC, most in this thread have said that they would seek a second opinion if they underwent evaluation and were told that they had incorrectly self-diagnosed. Getting a second opinion about something which has a significant impact on one's life is hardly doctor shopping.

I only recall one poster saying that he would outright doctor shop for a diagnosis - and that was for his son, not himself. I may be wrong, but I think what he really wants is an effective IEP for the kid, regardless of diagnosis. I believe he even said that he didn't dispute the diagnosis given until an IEP which did not help him was given, based on that DX.



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04 Apr 2011, 7:41 pm

First Psychiatirst: You couldn't have that! that's something diagnosed in children and there's no pill for that and this is a place that gives pills.

Current one: After discussing why I think I have it. Ok perhaps you do have Apserger's Syndrome. (Few months later when getting a written report to return to college) So you are diagnosed with a mood disorder and Asperger's right? Me: Yes (I fealt OMG he actually listened to me rambling, on having AS.) :-) YA!



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04 Apr 2011, 10:04 pm

Wow! 1st psychiatrist sounds like he needs his license revoked! That is why I was always skeptical of psychiatrists. Mind you, I am only basing my experience on one, but that one pushed pills EVERY time we were with him and CONTINUOUSLY threatened to throw me into an asylum (without my parents' knowing he was telling me that!)



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04 Apr 2011, 10:08 pm

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First Psychiatirst: You couldn't have that! that's something diagnosed in children


I've heard this from psychiatrists local to me as well. Adults don't have autism, only children have any spectrum disorders. Scary.



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04 Apr 2011, 10:13 pm

Let's see:

"I don't think you have it. You can socialize on the internet."
"I don't think you have it. You don't act like Rain Man."
"I don't think you have it. You have had friends ever in your life."
"I don't think you have it. You can make eye contact."

Anyone remember any other ridiculous reasons?



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04 Apr 2011, 10:27 pm

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Anyone remember any other ridiculous reasons?


You smile.
You're gesturing RIGHT NOW.
You have a great sense of humour!
You're obviously good with sarcasm.



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04 Apr 2011, 10:33 pm

"She's not autistic, autistic people wouldn't be able to communicate through typing like that, they just don't communicate at all!"

(Not from a diagnostician, but from a non-psych doctor who I was seeing on an emergency basis for a broken toe or something like that. Meanwhile he wouldn't speak to me, just about me to the person who was helping me. So I began saying things like "Wow, he hasn't read a medical journal on autism in the last 20 years..." in the third person about him, and he was really pissed off then.)


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04 Apr 2011, 10:37 pm

You don't have a monotone voice.
You don't stim.
You have a job.
You're in a relationship.

(gleaned from this site, not from personal experience.)



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04 Apr 2011, 10:40 pm

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. . . he wouldn't speak to me, just about me to the person who was helping me. So I began saying things like "Wow, he hasn't read a medical journal on autism in the last 20 years..." in the third person about him, and he was really pissed off then.)


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04 Apr 2011, 11:37 pm

ominous wrote:
Verdandi wrote:

Anyone remember any other ridiculous reasons?


You smile.
You're gesturing RIGHT NOW.
You have a great sense of humour!
You're obviously good with sarcasm.



You got through school
You're married
You have a job
You have had many jobs
You use sarcasm
You have friends (only a few)
You have empathy



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05 Apr 2011, 2:22 am

I recall someone (and maybe more than one someone) here saying that she was told that she was too good looking to be autistic.



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05 Apr 2011, 2:25 am

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
I recall someone (and maybe more than one someone) here saying that she was told that she was too good looking to be autistic.

:lol:



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28 Apr 2011, 11:38 am

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Imagine it.
One day you find an article about Asperger's in a newspaper/magazine/internet.
You read it and you are surprised, because it is all about you.
You search for more information on Internet, and it almost all fits you.
You become obsessed with Asperger's.
You go to wrongplanet, and read the topics. There are questions, that you have been trying to answer all your life. And most people here tell about themselves, and this is EXACTLY how you feel.
You were never able to fin in, anywhere. And you think, you FINALLY found people like you.
You think you're an aspie. But you don't have a diagnosis. You can't be sure, if you are or not. If you're not an aspie, that means that you're alone in the world, and you can't fit in anywhere. This thought bothers you, you have to find out if you're an aspie or not.
You go to the doctor. You tell him/her all about yourself, all your aspie traits, sure you don't use the word "aspergers". He/she examines you. And he/she says:
- You have mild form of depression/anxiety/psychological problems (something that can be cured or smth that you can overcome, and isn't a part of you).
And doctor doesn't mention Aspergers.
Thats all.
You're not an aspie anymore. And your obsessions doesn't make sense anymore.

How would you feel? What would you think? What would you do?


That was exactly what happened to me. Yesterday I had my first contact with my Psychiatrist. Her words were: "A person who has Asperger's Syndrome have no idea that she/he has it. It's not possible for them to be aware of it." And then she said: "Looking at you, apparently, I don't see any sign of SA." That was our first contact and that's how she Justified to me that I could not have SA!
I feel really frustrated and lost!



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28 Apr 2011, 12:13 pm

MOliveira wrote:
That was exactly what happened to me. Yesterday I had my first contact with my Psychiatrist. Her words were: "A person who has Asperger's Syndrome have no idea that she/he has it. It's not possible for them to be aware of it." And then she said: "Looking at you, apparently, I don't see any sign of SA." That was our first contact and that's how she Justified to me that I could not have SA!
I feel really frustrated and lost!


People are too dogmatic. I think many AS people do realize something is different about them before they find out it's AS. And once you find out about AS or autism, even if you didn't realize anything was different, reading other descriptions that sound very much like your own life may very well increase awareness and self-awareness.

Will you be able to try a different psychiatrist?



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28 Apr 2011, 12:31 pm

Okay, so an intelligent, well educated (yet still clueless) medical professional assesses you - if you are an adult with Asperger's, or any other form of autism, but do not present with the typical children's symptoms then you obviously don't have autism in their eyes. If that holds true - then why do we bother to put kids in social training, speech therapy, OT, occupational therapy,etc... if autistic children are incapable of learning those skills.

If they expect adults to present like children then obviously they must believe those skills cannot be learned.

Or, maybe, just maybe, they have no clue what autism looks like after those skills have been learned because children are cut off from much of their intevention care as they enter adulthood...



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28 Apr 2011, 2:42 pm

Y'know...it would SEEM to me that it is UTTERLY irresponsible to make a snap judgment about somebody and an issue they MIGHT have by making sweeping generalizations with no effort to look at the issues BEHIND the issue.

A person can APPEAR to be completely "NORMAL" in many respects. But then, a RESPONSIBLE diagnostician would begin to look for holes in what is "APPARENT" at the surface:

You got through school: but your teachers noted that you had significant issues with being able to interact with other students, including group assignments. In college, your practicum supervisor noted that "X seems to be in his/her own little world most of the time."

You're married: ...and it's on the rocks because you seem distant and uninvolved according to your wife despite saying you love her and making verbal acknowledgement of the problems between you and her.

You have a job: there is a lot of tension between you and others there because you don't "fit in" with them. Your contentment with being alone and seeming disinterest in other people is offensive to others who seem to expect everybody to "be friends" and socialize. You are more interested in your work. At the extreme, you've been bullied by supervisors and co-workers or even fired from every job you've ever had.

You have friends: But even they notice something different about you. In fact, everybody seems to notice some difference you have from "everybody else," but nobody has ever taken the initiative to put the pieces of this puzzle together to get a complete picture.

You have empathy: Misinterpreted(?). The lack of ability to reciprocate emotions and social cues meaning that you seem disinterested in other people. You might, in fact, be very interested in other people, but unsure of how to reciprocate. And because you are confused by this, you do lose interest or appear aloof. Worst case: you come off as stuck-up. You are unable to initiate or maintain conversation most of the time.

If these are correct, and a PROFESSIONAL doesn't take the time to explore such issues, then that's NOT very PROFESSIONAL.

Shouldn't they be reported on something like AngiesList?


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