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21 Apr 2011, 2:39 pm

bee33 wrote:

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I'm covered in scars.

That describes me to a T on another forum that I was on a few years ago. I was a moderator and I was also old, while the average kid on the forum was about 15. Whenever someone did something nasty to another person, especially to a hapless kid, I would come charging in on my white horse, taking off heads. While this was appreciated at first, I went off on people too often and too passionately, even if they deserved it. I wasn't banned from the forum but ended up ostracized and seen as a crazy person. I ended up with many battle scars, some of which I am still nursing today. I have never seen on this forum the kind of behavior I witnessed there, so I think you may be overreacting. But regardless, it's better to find your inner diplomat than your inner knight in shining armor. Some of us learned this the hard way, and it seems you have too, so why persevere?[/quote]

I'm naturally blunt and to the point. Diplomacy is for p****'s!

No not really, this thread has reinforced your comment, thank you. Keep your head down!

Only thing is bullys make war against another, if we just turned a blind eye, the little guys gets dicked and the bully thinks he/she can get stronger.

Its probably a bit like Nazi Germany and Poland. A stitch in time

I may have delayed the next forum drama, by highlighting these simmering power struggles.

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21 Apr 2011, 3:05 pm

Surfman wrote:

Its probably a bit like Nazi Germany and Poland. A stitch in time

I may have delayed the next forum drama, by highlighting these simmering power struggles.

Godwin's Law:

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Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies) is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope— someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions, the law is now often applied to any threaded online discussion, such as forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, and has been invoked for the inappropriate use of Nazi analogies in articles or speeches.

The fact that most of the posters here have no idea what you're talking about with regards to "simmering power struggles" should be a sign. Some people disagreed with you and you're taking things to an extreme.

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21 Apr 2011, 3:08 pm

Surfman wrote:

I may have delayed the next forum drama, by highlighting these simmering power struggles.

Or not. If actual bullies are present, it's not likely this thread will induce a change in their behavior. It is in the nature of bullies to turn up the heat when confronted, especially in online forums.

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21 Apr 2011, 3:17 pm

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Its probably a bit like Nazi Germany and Poland.

"Say, is that a piece of fairy cake?"

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21 Apr 2011, 3:24 pm

Surfman wrote:

if we just turned a blind eye,

Diplomacy does not mean turning a blind eye, it means dealing with problems in a way in which they are likely to be resolved rather than escalated.

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21 Apr 2011, 4:32 pm

If anything, I see excessive left wing brain rot.

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21 Apr 2011, 4:38 pm

Why do Aspies assume they will not have the same tribal qualities as NT's? Humans are essentially pack animals whether they be NT/AS or other and they will form cliques that others will perceive as hierarchies or dominances. It has happened on every social site I have been on since 1995. There will always be a louder, more regular posting set that know each other well, catch on to in jokes quicker than the rest and post more often. There will always be people who dont feel part of the set and who believe their behaviour in inappropriate, bullying or cliquey. Like it or not its human nature.

So what?

Ignore those you dont like, create you're own clique with those you do. Cliques arent wrong, bitching, backstabbing and bulling are wrong. Having a group of friends you feel comfortable with is not.

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21 Apr 2011, 5:38 pm

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/thread.
You sir (or madam) are basically saying what I'm trying to say.

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21 Apr 2011, 5:54 pm

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21 Apr 2011, 6:15 pm

Moopants wrote:

Nonsense. I'm sure that cliquey, grouping and packing behavior is much less amongst autistics. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist entirely though. I've noticed it cliquey here. I ignore it. It doesn't effect me. Thinking in groups is difficult and I do not naturally join them. I don't think this is my own quirk. I think it's an autistic issue.

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21 Apr 2011, 6:34 pm

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i don't feel welcomed or comfortable on this whole forum, i don't even remember the last time someone was nice to me, or that might be the whole internet not just this forum, and that's since i was 13 i'm 24 now. the only time i ever got any respect was on my first youtube account.

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21 Apr 2011, 7:13 pm

buryuntime wrote:

Moopants wrote:

I agree. Bonds do occur, cliques do arise, but I believe they are much weaker here than in any NT dominated social environment.

I think it's just that there's a few of the GD regulars who happen to agree with each other most of the time, and think alike, not a clique or gang of fascist bullies. It can feel quite unpleasant to face strong opposition to your ideas from several fronts. But sometimes it happens.

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21 Apr 2011, 8:57 pm

I feel like an outsider here and in my AS support group. Hardly anyone responses to my posts here, and hardly anyone speaks to me there, respectively. They all speak to each other though. No idea what I'm doing wrong.

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21 Apr 2011, 9:09 pm

Y'all are invited to my Misfit thread in the Haven... I don't fit in either so I'm making my own clique. Can't promise to keep it interesting but I try.

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21 Apr 2011, 10:05 pm

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i feel your pain, for me it's been like that on just about every site i ever joined. i'm an aspie with maybe schizoid somewhere in the mix. but it sucks when you get ignored, i've dropped art because of that reason. no one said they liked it and nobody said they hated it so started comparing mine with other art on the site... big mistake on my part.

if you want i could talk with you, it would be nice to know someone who kinda goes through the same thing and can understand it.

ps. i'm pretty sure your not doing anything wrong, cause when i first joined all the sites that i joined, i came there like anyone else i never did anything wrong and still got the cold shoulder. personally i comfort myself by telling myself the net is my enemy, whether it's true or not.

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22 Apr 2011, 2:50 am

I wonder if AS groups are fundamentally just like NT groups, in terms of power struggles and pecking orders.

If you rain on their parade, some want to take your head off.

I feel like the Christ!

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