02 Dec 2013, 10:47 pm
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02 Dec 2013, 10:47 pm
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Good suggestion.
While it is fine to ask others for help to finding contacts to bring to you it is expected that a person making a claim provide the proof. Since you now finally seem to understand that your claims alone are not being accepted as proof it is up to you to get that proof. You have said that you have done this "so that others may benefit from it" you get yourself interested in finding the time. Some of the time to get contacts may be produced by stopping arguing with us. Having reputable scientists confirm this will mean worldwide knowledge of this "cure" verses one website thus benefiting a hell of a lot more people (and a hell of a lot more money for you). I would suggest you use your social skills which you should have now that you are "cured" to help make these contacts. It is called doing.
No matter who gets the contacts you will have to be diagnosed as ASD first and as you know from reading Attwood's book and they will have to know you had symptoms at a very young age and these symptoms continued not necessary at the same rate throughout your life until the alleged cure.
While it is fine to ask others for help to finding contacts to bring to you it is expected that a person making a claim provide the proof. Since you now finally seem to understand that your claims alone are not being accepted as proof it is up to you to get that proof. You have said that you have done this "so that others may benefit from it" you get yourself interested in finding the time. Some of the time to get contacts may be produced by stopping arguing with us. Having reputable scientists confirm this will mean worldwide knowledge of this "cure" verses one website thus benefiting a hell of a lot more people (and a hell of a lot more money for you). I would suggest you use your social skills which you should have now that you are "cured" to help make these contacts. It is called doing.
No matter who gets the contacts you will have to be diagnosed as ASD first and as you know from reading Attwood's book and they will have to know you had symptoms at a very young age and these symptoms continued not necessary at the same rate throughout your life until the alleged cure.
Like I said, I'm not interested in spending my time proving what I already know - but I'll cooperate with whomever you want me to answer questions to. Also, as stated, it'd take all of a trip to the grocery store and a couple of weeks for anyone in this thread to prove to themselves whether it works for them or not.
what money? I've said many times I don't want money for this. I've shared it freely; you're welcome to it - it's all there.
I'm not so sure someone would diagnose me with Asperger's anymore, so that may be out of the question. My symptoms are now so slight & subtle compared to 6 months ago when there is no chance someone wouldn't have put me on the spectrum.
I can give you two names. Simons Foundation Autism Research Initiative. I do not know anybody there but I can give the website
Website for registering and sending proposals
https://proposalcentral.altum.com/
If you have any questions about registration on our site, how to apply for a particular grant, or anything else we can help you with, please contact our customer support hotline at 800 875 2562 (Toll-free U.S. and Canada), +1 703 964 5840 (Direct Dial International) or by email at [email protected].
And there is Autism Speaks
But no matter how you get a contact your proposal must be professional not the rough draft you have.
I do not understand why you would not want money in this economy. There is no such thing as secure employment even for the most extreme neurotypical. It would be money you have earned, payment for services rendered etc.
I might shoot one or both of them an email sometime. This draft was never intended to be a proposal for a study, so I wouldn't expect it to suffice.
Because this is more valuable than money for those that can benefit from it. Also, those that could benefit most from it don't likely have much money to offer, anyways. I've already posted 100% of what I'm doing to treat myself in the OP for free, so writing a book about it and marketing it is kind of moot. And again, I don't want money for this, I want others to benefit from it if they can and are willing to do what it takes to get themselves healthy & happy.
I have a job & earn my money working - currently working ~65h/week. Once this project is done this Spring, if I have to find a new job then I will. There are a lot of jobs out there I can now do that will pay me similar to what I'm earning now. Also, I have business aspirations in a completely unrelated field than natural healthcare & intend to focus my time and energy on making this plans a reality vs. spreading myself too thin trying to make a go of other less lucrative business ventures that I'm not passionate about in terms of making money with.
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02 Dec 2013, 10:47 pm
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03 Dec 2013, 1:12 am
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In regards to autism specifically:
http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/18/2/113.full.pdf+html
http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/18/2/113.full.pdf+html
I cannot examine the validity of your study because my institution does not have access. However, I offer the review article from my previous post as counter evidence- dietary changes aren't worthwhile for autism.
Janissy- thanks for that. I agree with your analysis of Dr Waring's work. However, I am very sceptical about that blog- looking at it, it seems to make a lot of the same dubious claims as goldfish. For example, she swears by "Epsom salts" as "detox". This is completely neglected by science (for shame!), but doesn't even appear in notable lists of folk remedies, and no credible mechanism for its action has been proposed: http://saveyourself.ca/articles/epsom-salts.php I do not know about the PST sulphation pathway, but based on that blogger's other work, I would not trust them to teach me about science. If you know the science to be accurate then I shall accept your analysis
There are several books on special diets for Autism, because dietary changes do work for treating Autism. I'm not the only one on this forum who has experienced benefits via dietary changes. There have been several threads on the Gluten Free Casein Free (GFCF) diet for Autism, for one example.
Epsom salts have been used for detox purposes for thousands of years. In the past, people believed they drew toxins out through the feet when they did an epsom salt foot soak. To the contrary, modern science has proved that it's the other ay around - we absorb the magnesium sulphate crystals through our skin (which is permeable.) & then it aids in detoxing salicylate acids (and other compounds) by doing it's thing binding with them and enabling them to be excreted in urine.
what I still cannot wrap my mind around is the fact that you (everyone here, in general.) would wait several months to 1-2 years+ for someone to conduct a study and compile empirical statistical evidence for you to review before accepting that this is possibly a common cause of Autism and entirely treatable via diet vs. being willing to change your diet for 2-3 weeks to find out if your symptoms begin to significantly subside. It's just straight up bizarre to me that others wouldn't be willing to give this a shot to find out if it helps them.
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03 Dec 2013, 1:21 am
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03 Dec 2013, 1:22 am
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Random thought I had on my drive home from work this evening:
For those of you saying you'd only trust information from an Autism researcher/Neuroscientist etc:
I have no contacts in this field. Nor am I particularly interested in spending my time making any. I'm already experiencing the benefits of this personally, and am sharing what I'm doing so that others may benefit from it.
However, if you personally know someone in this field and you'd like to put them in touch with me whether online or in person, I'll re-tell my story to them and they can go ahead and conduct any research, studies, trials etc they wish to.
And one other thing that may be of particular interest to a doctor researching ASD: I have an identical twin brother who has so far refused to acknowledge his ADHD/ASD traits or treat them in any way. I've been telling him about what I'm doing, but so far he too is reluctant to want to do anything to treat himself. There are others in my family that are less resistant to the idea that I hope follow through with dietary changes, eventually persuading others to do the same so it's not just my word for it kind of thing. Anyways, the interest to researchers may be in the fact that he has both obvious traits of ADHD/ASD as well as physical traits of system candidiasis that has not been treated. A doc who met me, and also my twin brother, would be able to tell both the neurological and physical differences in our health even though he has never gotten quite as bad as I have been over the last few years. In large part, I suspect this is because he has never drank alcohol in his life, never smoked anything, and did not take Dextroamphetamine for 3 years - all of which fuelled the infection in me and made things worse. For him it's just a poor diet & too much caffeine that keep him in the state he's in.. which isn't a terrible one; he's been working at the same job for 8 years and travelling the world. He's certainly been higher functioning than me the last few years, but now I've surpassed him and definitely notice his ADHD/ASD traits when I see him. I might have to con him into meeting some doc/researcher - or not even tell him the person with me is observing him... and I'd be willing to do that in the name of observable scientific evidence of my claims. He won't see this as he has no interest in learning anything about what afflicts him & just tells me to do whatever owrks for me and he'll do whatever he wants. Anyways, I thought I'd put this random thought out there to see if anyone thinks this might be a good idea for proof of my claims, especially if they know a qualified 3rd party observer who's evaluation they'd trust.
For those of you saying you'd only trust information from an Autism researcher/Neuroscientist etc:
I have no contacts in this field. Nor am I particularly interested in spending my time making any. I'm already experiencing the benefits of this personally, and am sharing what I'm doing so that others may benefit from it.
However, if you personally know someone in this field and you'd like to put them in touch with me whether online or in person, I'll re-tell my story to them and they can go ahead and conduct any research, studies, trials etc they wish to.
And one other thing that may be of particular interest to a doctor researching ASD: I have an identical twin brother who has so far refused to acknowledge his ADHD/ASD traits or treat them in any way. I've been telling him about what I'm doing, but so far he too is reluctant to want to do anything to treat himself. There are others in my family that are less resistant to the idea that I hope follow through with dietary changes, eventually persuading others to do the same so it's not just my word for it kind of thing. Anyways, the interest to researchers may be in the fact that he has both obvious traits of ADHD/ASD as well as physical traits of system candidiasis that has not been treated. A doc who met me, and also my twin brother, would be able to tell both the neurological and physical differences in our health even though he has never gotten quite as bad as I have been over the last few years. In large part, I suspect this is because he has never drank alcohol in his life, never smoked anything, and did not take Dextroamphetamine for 3 years - all of which fuelled the infection in me and made things worse. For him it's just a poor diet & too much caffeine that keep him in the state he's in.. which isn't a terrible one; he's been working at the same job for 8 years and travelling the world. He's certainly been higher functioning than me the last few years, but now I've surpassed him and definitely notice his ADHD/ASD traits when I see him. I might have to con him into meeting some doc/researcher - or not even tell him the person with me is observing him... and I'd be willing to do that in the name of observable scientific evidence of my claims. He won't see this as he has no interest in learning anything about what afflicts him & just tells me to do whatever owrks for me and he'll do whatever he wants. Anyways, I thought I'd put this random thought out there to see if anyone thinks this might be a good idea for proof of my claims, especially if they know a qualified 3rd party observer who's evaluation they'd trust.
You'd even go so far as to deceive your own brother to prove your point? I'd hope any doctor with any degree of professional ethics will probably refuse to even take part in such a deception. You are so obsessed with this 'cure ' of yours you are willing to lie to your own kin! Yet have the nerve to criticise anyone who doesn't feel inclined to subject themselves to your theories?
If I had a yeast infection I'd go to a doctor and have it cured. but I don't believe I do have a yeast infection and I don't believe in the 'leaky gut' theory anyway.
The end justifies the means. I wouldn't lie to him; I just wouldn't be entirely transparent and would be willing to omit things in order for a qualified observer to observe he & I, behavioural/neurological symptoms, physical symptoms etc in the name of science. If he knew he was being observed, chances are extremely likely he would not willingly participate - that's just the way he is. But a lot of value could be gleaned by a keen observer trained to detect signs & symptoms of both Autism and systemic candidiasis.
The nerve? why yes, yes I do.. because I find it ridiculous that people here truly suffering from Autism symptoms aren't willing to try something as simple as a change in diet for a couple weeks to see if their symptoms begin to subside.
If you had a yeast infection.. how would you know if you did or not if you aren't willing to have a test done to find out? If it were that easy to just know that's what was going on in one's gut then it wouldn't have taken me over 30 years to have figured it out. You don't believe you do, but you don't know. Just because you don't believe leaky gut causes these symptoms doesn't make it any less real that it does. I can confidently say this because I've experienced it first hand.
Again, I have absolutely no reason to lie about any of this as there is nothing in it for me. There's no financial or other motivation for me to make this stuff up for the hell of it. what I've posted here in this thread has genuinely been my experience & I've shared it so that others may benefit from it.
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03 Dec 2013, 1:25 am
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The placebo effect is very powerful.
no. The symptoms I've experienced forever are literally subsiding and I'm back to work and life better than I've ever been. Besides neurologically, I'm also physically healthier and stronger than ever. My skin has cleared up, I'm gaining muscle mass and strength I've never had before, my lungs are clearer than ever.. etc.
Again, like a broken record, it's not going to hinder my life one iota if you don't get healthier & happier. Suit yourself.
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03 Dec 2013, 1:27 am
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The money won't come from autistics. You help find the cure for autism there are organizations will handsomely pay you for that. The media appearances and book deal and possibly movie deal that will follow will make the $65k you earn now look like allowance money. And then there is the fame. If you are neurotypical now you should desperately want that.
I'm not interested in any of that crap from this. I'm only interested in sharing what I've learned with others it may benefit. And that's ridiculous to assume that all NT's desperately want fame. Get real.
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03 Dec 2013, 2:34 am
goldfish21 wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
The placebo effect is very powerful.
no. The symptoms I've experienced forever are literally subsiding and I'm back to work and life better than I've ever been. Besides neurologically, I'm also physically healthier and stronger than ever. My skin has cleared up, I'm gaining muscle mass and strength I've never had before, my lungs are clearer than ever.. etc.Again, like a broken record, it's not going to hinder my life one iota if you don't get healthier & happier. Suit yourself.
Your repeated denial of the placebo effect either means you don't actually understand what's being said to you here, or you're refusing to accept the possibility. The brain is an amazing thing. The placebo effect can account for many, if not all of those things.
Just as the nocebo effect can make people incredibly sick (and arguably kill them, in the case of Australian Aborigines who've 'had the bone pointed at them').
Your refusal to accept that it could be the placebo effect, doesn't mean it isn't.
03 Dec 2013, 7:32 am
goldfish21 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
cavernio wrote:
In regards to autism specifically:
http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/18/2/113.full.pdf+html
http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/18/2/113.full.pdf+html
I cannot examine the validity of your study because my institution does not have access. However, I offer the review article from my previous post as counter evidence- dietary changes aren't worthwhile for autism.
Janissy- thanks for that. I agree with your analysis of Dr Waring's work. However, I am very sceptical about that blog- looking at it, it seems to make a lot of the same dubious claims as goldfish. For example, she swears by "Epsom salts" as "detox". This is completely neglected by science (for shame!), but doesn't even appear in notable lists of folk remedies, and no credible mechanism for its action has been proposed: http://saveyourself.ca/articles/epsom-salts.php I do not know about the PST sulphation pathway, but based on that blogger's other work, I would not trust them to teach me about science. If you know the science to be accurate then I shall accept your analysis
There are several books on special diets for Autism, because dietary changes do work for treating Autism.But they don't. This has been proven.
Again, placebo, regression to the mean, post hoc fallacy.
That's why we have science- to check if something actually works better than nothing.
There are many books on homeopathy, "The Secret", healing crystals, the existence of unicorns, astrology, i-Ching, shape shifting lizards disguised as humans, Nibiru, Lysenkoism, conversion therapy, Scientology, Jesus Christ's life in North America, psychics, phrenology, psychoanalysis, chemtrails, "the truth about 9/11", the moon landings being recorded in a studio, subliminal messaging, Brain Gym, biorhythms, faith healing, naturopathy, reflexology, acupuncture, chakra, crop circles, ghosts, cryptozoology, ESP, palmistry, tarot cards, Christian science, creationism, feng shui, and anti-ageing creams.
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03 Dec 2013, 8:48 am
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Tuttle wrote:
The placebo effect is very powerful.
no. The symptoms I've experienced forever are literally subsiding and I'm back to work and life better than I've ever been. Besides neurologically, I'm also physically healthier and stronger than ever. My skin has cleared up, I'm gaining muscle mass and strength I've never had before, my lungs are clearer than ever.. etc.Again, like a broken record, it's not going to hinder my life one iota if you don't get healthier & happier. Suit yourself.
Your repeated denial of the placebo effect either means you don't actually understand what's being said to you here, or you're refusing to accept the possibility. The brain is an amazing thing. The placebo effect can account for many, if not all of those things.
Just as the nocebo effect can make people incredibly sick (and arguably kill them, in the case of Australian Aborigines who've 'had the bone pointed at them').
Your refusal to accept that it could be the placebo effect, doesn't mean it isn't.
I comprehend what the placebo effect is. This is not it.
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03 Dec 2013, 8:52 am
The_Walrus wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
cavernio wrote:
In regards to autism specifically:
http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/18/2/113.full.pdf+html
http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/18/2/113.full.pdf+html
I cannot examine the validity of your study because my institution does not have access. However, I offer the review article from my previous post as counter evidence- dietary changes aren't worthwhile for autism.
Janissy- thanks for that. I agree with your analysis of Dr Waring's work. However, I am very sceptical about that blog- looking at it, it seems to make a lot of the same dubious claims as goldfish. For example, she swears by "Epsom salts" as "detox". This is completely neglected by science (for shame!), but doesn't even appear in notable lists of folk remedies, and no credible mechanism for its action has been proposed: http://saveyourself.ca/articles/epsom-salts.php I do not know about the PST sulphation pathway, but based on that blogger's other work, I would not trust them to teach me about science. If you know the science to be accurate then I shall accept your analysis
There are several books on special diets for Autism, because dietary changes do work for treating Autism.But they don't. This has been proven.
Again, placebo, regression to the mean, post hoc fallacy.
That's why we have science- to check if something actually works better than nothing.
There are many books on homeopathy, "The Secret", healing crystals, the existence of unicorns, astrology, i-Ching, shape shifting lizards disguised as humans, Nibiru, Lysenkoism, conversion therapy, Scientology, Jesus Christ's life in North America, psychics, phrenology, psychoanalysis, chemtrails, "the truth about 9/11", the moon landings being recorded in a studio, subliminal messaging, Brain Gym, biorhythms, faith healing, naturopathy, reflexology, acupuncture, chakra, crop circles, ghosts, cryptozoology, ESP, palmistry, tarot cards, Christian science, creationism, feng shui, and anti-ageing creams.
I've proven to myself by doing it that it does in fact have a massive impact. You've proven nothing to anyone by repeatedly declaring that it does not.
That's why we have our own 5 senses to experience and observe things. ie Try it for yourself and find out vs. make up every reason you can imagine why it won't.
There are also many books on depression & depressive thinking, jumping to conclusions, making assumptions etc that you might want to pick up and read and see how your own depressive paradigms are hindering you from accepting the possibility that what I'm saying is true & real.
Or you could just try it for a couple weeks and prove or disprove what I've said.
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03 Dec 2013, 8:55 am
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The article in the link below is particularly informative about specific probiotics missing in Autistics:
http://www.theprovince.com/health/Gastr ... story.html
http://www.theprovince.com/health/Gastr ... story.html
I also find it interesting that not one single person has made a comment on this article that I highlighted in the links - an article about scientific proof that there are specific probiotic bacteria commonly missing in the guts of Autistics, further proving the gut flora-brain correlation & potential causation of Autism.
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03 Dec 2013, 1:41 pm
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Suggestion:
1)List specific examples of your autistic traits prior to getting worse
2)List specific examples of how your traits got worse
3) List specific examples of how you have improved.
1)List specific examples of your autistic traits prior to getting worse
2)List specific examples of how your traits got worse
3) List specific examples of how you have improved.
Have you read "The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome," by Dr. Tony Attwood? I had nearly EVERY ASD trait listed in that book. Not just a few, but nearly EVERY single one, leaving absolutely no doubt in my mind that I've been on the Autism Spectrum my entire life.
Traits got worse over the last 3-4 years especially. Depression, anxiety, audio sensory overload, executive functions, short term memory, balance/coordination & fine motor skills, mood swings, misinterpreting people, avoiding eye contact, intense special interests etc etc. Things got really really bad to where I haven't been able to work full time consistently for 3-4 years. Symptoms were completely ruining my life & potential to accomplish goals.
Damn near every trait has improved immensely. Some are all but gone now. The first to change dramatically were the sky high anxiety and audio sensory overload. Then everything else, bit by bit, has gotten better and better and better - I'm happier and healthier now than I have ever been in my entire life. I still don't know what the limit is.. but I intend to find out if symptoms go away completely once my gut is healed, or if any still remain. It'll also be interesting to find out what my true physical/mental/career potentials are. So far the improvements have let me get back to work and life and everything continues to get better day by day, week by week. I'm finally on my way to achieving various goals I have in life vs. spinning my wheels in frustration; being able to think & calculate to the nth degree but not do. Now I'm doing & it's going great.
Thanks for your response but I was looking for examples that specifically illustrate traits and how they have measurably improved.
Example: sensory issues
1) before I could only handle Wal-Mart for 30 minutes before shutting down.
2) it got worse as a shut down occurred after 5 minutes of Wal-Mart
3) it is better because I can now handle 2 hours of Wal-Mart without shutting down.
Could you provide examples like this for the following categories?
1)social and emotional reciprocity
2)nonverbal communication
3)making/maintaining friendships
4)repetitive movements
5)fixated interests
6)routines/sameness
7)sensory issues
other
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