Kids on the spectrum don't belong in mainstream school

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01 Mar 2014, 11:54 am

I think she means she's getting on in age and may not be familiar with this slang.
Douchebag refers to a feminine hygiene product, google it. In urban slang it means jerk or a**hole.


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01 Mar 2014, 11:55 am

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I am currently in secondary school in the UK and it is one of the most common terms used to describe someone that isn't an accepted swear.
Me and my friend laughed at this.


:lol: Well I'm knocking on a bit.


I don't get it, sorry (I don't want this to sound mean I just have a hard time understanding things the majority of the time, could you please explain?).


I meant we didn't use that expression when I was younger.

Knocking on a bit=getting older


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01 Mar 2014, 11:57 am

I have never heard that before, thank you for teaching me something new.
I always need expressions explained to me the first time I here them, I don't instinctively know what they mean.
I don't get the insult "douche" means a few different things for example "gel" or "shower", so what is the point in calling someone a gelbag or a showerbag?



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01 Mar 2014, 12:00 pm

Douche refers specifically to vaginal cleaning. The bag contains the "dirtyness" expelled by the process. I think it's a lot of hokum, but I guess some women feel I need to do this. I guess it would be similar to calling someone a used condom. lol


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01 Mar 2014, 12:03 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
Douche refers specifically to vaginal cleaning. The bag contains the "dirtyness" expelled by the process. I think it's a lot of hokum, but I guess some women feel I need to do this. I guess it would be similar to calling someone a used condom. lol


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01 Mar 2014, 12:04 pm

I went to a public school but mainly I think that's because I wasn't diagnosed with ASD until 14 or 15 and by then it was too late to do too much about it but the teachers always knew I had something so they helped me out a lot because of it. I was mostly involved with the special education support teachers there and I've done ok I guess. Could have done a lot better but I don't remember getting picked on much by anyone apart from in the first year and all of the teachers supported me when I needed them. Anyway, at least 5 of the other boys in my year group were disabled too (ADHD, autism, dyslexic......) so in a way my friendship group was like a special school. I don't like the idea of excluding people because they're different anyway even if it might make their lives better in the long run



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01 Mar 2014, 12:50 pm

The neurotypical solution to bullying is to put all autistics into ret*d schools.



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01 Mar 2014, 1:06 pm

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The neurotypical solution to bullying is to put all autistics into ret*d schools.


Well, just because of the nature of NT's, it will be a long and hard road for us to gain acceptance. Until then, our kids need protection from the bullies. And, "ret*d School?" Why are you adopting such vile NT wording?



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01 Mar 2014, 1:11 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
Douche refers specifically to vaginal cleaning. The bag contains the "dirtyness" expelled by the process. I think it's a lot of hokum, but I guess some women feel I need to do this. I guess it would be similar to calling someone a used condom. lol



They must not have that term in Canada. Do you guys also say b***h to mean someone who isn't a nice person or someone who is rude or in a bad mood. We have that term here too lol. We also use the term p**** to mean someone is emotionally weak and not strong and they are feeble and too sensitive or too afraid. Do you guys use this term too?


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01 Mar 2014, 1:15 pm

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Do you guys also say b***h to mean someone who isn't a nice person or someone who is rude or in a bad mood.

I think b***h is used to describe someone who is being deliberately contrary. Like when someone turns everything into a negative.


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01 Mar 2014, 1:15 pm

Douche and douchebag are not considered vulgar and tend to be applied to men moreso than women.


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01 Mar 2014, 1:40 pm

I agree ^.

Also, referring back to babybird, douchebag, like a lot of other slang, is sexist too. Yay *sarcasm*.



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01 Mar 2014, 1:45 pm

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I went to a public school but mainly I think that's because I wasn't diagnosed with ASD until 14 or 15 and by then it was too late to do too much about it but the teachers always knew I had something so they helped me out a lot because of it. I was mostly involved with the special education support teachers there and I've done ok I guess. Could have done a lot better but I don't remember getting picked on much by anyone apart from in the first year and all of the teachers supported me when I needed them. Anyway, at least 5 of the other boys in my year group were disabled too (ADHD, autism, dyslexic......) so in a way my friendship group was like a special school. I don't like the idea of excluding people because they're different anyway even if it might make their lives better in the long run


Except for the start (which I'm hoping will happen to me soon) I agree and all of this happened has happened to me which is strange.



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01 Mar 2014, 2:58 pm

I was in regular school, but I was teased like crazy because I was different, but the thing is I wouldn't have wanted to be in a special class, in grade 3 I was in the special reading group for the lowest level of reading and I hated it because I felt I was different, I actually worked really hard and basically self taught a lot of reading skills that by grade 7 I was at the top of my class in reading skills. As much as I was teased I think I would feel worse about myself if in a special class because I would know I was different. I think people with high functioning autism should be in the mainstream schools but have extra support or ability to work ahead of other kids, aka I was doing math above my level in elementary school. In the real world people with Autism will have to interact with NTs who will probably judge them it doesn't just happen in childhood. Plus people with Autism are not the only ones that get teased anyone who is different gets teased. Kids are mean in general but I think they would be even meanier if someone was in a special class, because they are set apart from others.


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01 Mar 2014, 3:23 pm

It depends on the kid. I did terrible in normal and special classes. The only school I managed to do ok in and not get bullied excessively was a residential school for bad kids that was very structured (literally every minute of the day was scheduled) and they were strict and didn't tolerate much bullying. I hated it but I managed to do my school work and not get in too much trouble.



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01 Mar 2014, 3:32 pm

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I was in regular school, but I was teased like crazy because I was different, but the thing is I wouldn't have wanted to be in a special class, in grade 3 I was in the special reading group for the lowest level of reading and I hated it because I felt I was different, I actually worked really hard and basically self taught a lot of reading skills that by grade 7 I was at the top of my class in reading skills. As much as I was teased I think I would feel worse about myself if in a special class because I would know I was different. I think people with high functioning autism should be in the mainstream schools but have extra support or ability to work ahead of other kids, aka I was doing math above my level in elementary school. In the real world people with Autism will have to interact with NTs who will probably judge them it doesn't just happen in childhood. Plus people with Autism are not the only ones that get teased anyone who is different gets teased. Kids are mean in general but I think they would be even meanier if someone was in a special class, because they are set apart from others.


I see some truth to this. When I was in special ed, it seemed a lot of the kids were there for things like intellectual disability or primarily behavioral problems (who otherwise seemed able to socialized well). I didn't see very many kids (though I did see some) that I could identify in retrospect as having been on the autism spectrum, and heck even my ADHD seemed to make me stand out, as I didn't know very many other kids with that either. Even in special ed, I felt lonely and different (as I also did in my mainstreaming attempts). LOL.

I remember in 4th grade one boy who was very clearly autistic in retrospect. He was highly intelligent and able to hum music with perfect pitch and kick butt at video games, while unlike me his behavior didn't really come across as anxious, confused, or disruptive. He had this one repetitive behavior, though, that I would never forget: He would take his hand and would angle his index finger and thumb down in a way designed to pinch; he would then bring that hand up to your forehead and squeeze in order to produce wrinkles; while doing this, he would say repeatedly, "Mmm, wrinkles. Mmm, Richard." (I do not know where he got the name Richard from as that was not his name, nor did it seem to be the name of anyone significant in his life.) We were close friends and I enjoyed his company, but one day he stopped coming to school and when we tried going by his house, his family had disappeared.

My mum actually talked to me about him then, describing him as autistic. This was actually the first time I had ever heard of the word autism/autistic. What's funny in retrospect, is that I was at the time already diagnosed with an ASD (PDD-NOS) and at the end of the previous school year had been found eligible to receive autism resource services from the school, yet no one ever told me I was autistic until I was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome at age 13 (in 8th grade). My mum had given the impression that it was just something my best friend had.


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