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12 May 2020, 2:13 am

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I'm an extremely attractive woman (top 1%) and its terrible. I feel like my life would be so much easier if was average. For one I can NOT blend in. Everything I do is scrutinized its like I'm in a spotlight at all times, and since Im an aspie that mean every social mistake is magnified. Everyone knows who I am, when I just wish I could just be invisible and disappear. Secondly people have these SUPER high expectations for me that I can't meet. That I'll be super outgoing and super social- then they get pissed when I can't meet these expectations- its like its too heavy of a contradiction and they end up hating me and calling me a snob for it. Nobody can understand that I'm socially challenged even when I explicity spell it out. Third, I've had to deal with vicious jealous women who are threatened by me my entire life.

I've tried making myself unattractive so that I can be invisible but nothing really works. What would you guys recommend?


Uhh I just don't know, I am a women with aspergers...but I have always felt like weirdly apart from most women. LIke part of the reason I don't wear make-up is because I don't know how to put it on without looking like a clown. Also I always feel like having tiny boobs I could just look like a guy in a hoodie at first glance. Like IDk I feel I could never compete with a women in a nice dress with a bit of cleavage showing like my boobs are so small they would never hold up a dress like that. Also If I put something on that was showing a lot of cleavage and was insistent about wearing it I'd probably still find some way to make sure my boobs are covered with at least something. LIke IDK its a werid thought but sometimes I feel like with having such small boobs and not really being so much into showing my body off like it sometimes makes me feel I am not like a 'real woman'. Its stupid of course I am a real woman and different women can have different tastes. Its just like some women seem to have kind of an air about them, like you gotta be good enough to have any chance with their p**** or whatever. But then there are girls like me that don't really have that kind of expectation about getting the most sexy guy, just want someone who will accept who they are. LIke that is why I was happy with the boyfriend I still have...like I never mentioned the autism immedaiatly I just was worried mentioning that right of way might have been too offputting. But to my suprise, like it really was by surprise at the time that he actually liked me like I remember the first night I went to meet him...and we both f****d up on the lightrail as of where to meet. Ha ha I was already on the lightrail to meet him and so he was able to meet me there but we missed each others trains...so he had to back track some to meet with me, then we had a really good night and I suppose that was the start of our more serious relationshhip we have now. But it will always be funny to me on our first potential date we missed each other on the train, so I had to wait like a half hour before he was able to meet up but it was also because we both had missed the trains we had planned to catch.


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12 May 2020, 2:32 am

I heard that eating garlic does wonders.



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12 May 2020, 2:40 am

hollowmoon wrote:
Secondly people have these SUPER high expectations for me that I can't meet. That I'll be super outgoing and super social- then they get pissed when I can't meet these expectations- its like its too heavy of a contradiction and they end up hating me and calling me a snob for it. Nobody can understand that I'm socially challenged even when I explicity spell it out. Third, I've had to deal with vicious jealous women who are threatened by me my entire life.


Sorry should point out I am dealing with hollowmoon's point's 2 and 3 and not her point 1 (nobody can help if they are "super attractive")

Point 2 - people with high expectations should be told to mind their own business
Point 3 - jealous girls are always going to be jealous because of point 1 so learn to avoid and if you can't avoid then learn to fight. Being independent in this world is learning how to stand on your own, my daughter is 14 and gets bullied at school by girls who are jealous. I teach her to stand up for herself and she is slowing learning to do this.



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12 May 2020, 5:24 am

How is a person even supposed to know, how attractive they are....i would never say I am a (insert number) because IDK. I have no idea if I am a 4,5,6,7 or more I suppose I am assuming I am at least a 4 but how does one know for sure where they stand on the scale? Like who can even say "I'm a 10' and have no question about it. How do you know what number you are?


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12 May 2020, 5:46 am

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How is a person even supposed to know, how attractive they are....i would never say I am a (insert number) because IDK. I have no idea if I am a 4,5,6,7 or more I suppose I am assuming I am at least a 4 but how does one know for sure where they stand on the scale? Like who can even say "I'm a 10' and have no question about it. How do you know what number you are?


Ask a male....



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12 May 2020, 6:08 am

hollowmoon: very sorry that this happened to you, I can only imagine what a distressing experience that must have been.

All: I am very much speaking as a moderator when I ask you to please avoid victim blaming. If you would like clarification on this point then please send a PM, or post in the WrongPlanet discussion subforum, rather than replying here.



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12 May 2020, 6:25 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
How is a person even supposed to know, how attractive they are....i would never say I am a (insert number) because IDK. I have no idea if I am a 4,5,6,7 or more I suppose I am assuming I am at least a 4 but how does one know for sure where they stand on the scale? Like who can even say "I'm a 10' and have no question about it. How do you know what number you are?


Not everyone 'rates others' on a scale, I certainly don't and maybe you don't either. The idea seems way too simple and shallow to even make any sense to myself. Also that the scale done by anyone is going to be different for person to person and self proclaiming a 10 means there's potentially ego involved.



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12 May 2020, 6:41 am

I’m damn gorgeous.....it’s just SO frustrating :wink:



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12 May 2020, 7:42 am

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hollowmoon wrote:
I'm an extremely attractive woman (top 1%) and its terrible. I feel like my life would be so much easier if was average. For one I can NOT blend in. Everything I do is scrutinized its like I'm in a spotlight at all times, and since Im an aspie that mean every social mistake is magnified. Everyone knows who I am, when I just wish I could just be invisible and disappear. Secondly people have these SUPER high expectations for me that I can't meet. That I'll be super outgoing and super social- then they get pissed when I can't meet these expectations- its like its too heavy of a contradiction and they end up hating me and calling me a snob for it. Nobody can understand that I'm socially challenged even when I explicity spell it out. Third, I've had to deal with vicious jealous women who are threatened by me my entire life.

I've tried making myself unattractive so that I can be invisible but nothing really works. What would you guys recommend?


For everyone that laughed at me, last month I was set up to raped, and none of the girls would help me because they were jealous.


Sorry to hear that. :cry: Do you know who set it up? If not and you only have suspects, make sure to be wary of all of them at all times if you have to interract with them for one reason or the other.



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12 May 2020, 9:13 am

I’m sorry you were set up to be raped.

People who did that should go to prison for a long time.



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12 May 2020, 6:10 pm

Jagz wrote:
Not everyone 'rates others' on a scale, I certainly don't and maybe you don't either. The idea seems way too simple and shallow to even make any sense to myself. Also that the scale done by anyone is going to be different for person to person and self proclaiming a 10 means there's potentially ego involved.


Boo is correct, everyone does a mental calculation.



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13 May 2020, 6:05 pm

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Boo is correct, everyone does a mental calculation.


Doesn't mean it's always on a (1-10) scale or as a comparison, can be as simple as find them attractive or not.



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13 May 2020, 6:52 pm

Jagz wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Boo is correct, everyone does a mental calculation.


Doesn't mean it's always on a (1-10) scale or as a comparison, can be as simple as find them attractive or not.


The threshold is something like
1-5 - no thanks
5-6 - hmmm worth a second look
6-7 - Hi there :) do you come here often?
7-8 - gosh she's cute, how do I say hi?
8-9 - She probably has a boyfriend
10 - She's probably an instagram model



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13 May 2020, 8:41 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Jagz wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Boo is correct, everyone does a mental calculation.


Doesn't mean it's always on a (1-10) scale or as a comparison, can be as simple as find them attractive or not.


The threshold is something like
1-5 - no thanks
5-6 - hmmm worth a second look
6-7 - Hi there :) do you come here often?
7-8 - gosh she's cute, how do I say hi?
8-9 - She probably has a boyfriend
10 - She's probably an instagram model


I get the idea as a concept and that idea would be heavily pushed by (social) media too. I'm just saying not everyone thinks like that as I don't and as weird as I might think the odds of being that unique are too slim. For me, more like simply attractive - yes/ no. The parts that would make a scale more precise for myself are beyond physical features, personality being the biggest. Which as my original point was relating to someone not being able to judge themselves on a scale, well I couldn't/ wouldn't for myself and I don't go round thinking like that for others, but then again I'm invisible in general anyway.



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14 May 2020, 12:38 am

Marilyn Monroe famously said, "Once
you get what you want, you don't want it."

Take comfort that all things shall pass.



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14 May 2020, 12:52 am

cyberdad wrote:
10 - She's probably an instagram model



a lot of what you see on instagram isn't real.
i mean, it's social media.

i wish i knew this when i was younger. i'm so glad i'm not a teenage girl today, or raising one. such a shame what it's doing to the self-image/esteem of so many young guys AND girls nowadays when they feel like they have to compete with something that doesn't really exist.

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