Accepting Autism is Like a Traffic Jam

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It sounds to me like Foresam is on a hate rant against autism because his son is autistic. That's understandable. In the absence of reasons why it's normal to fix blame at the most convenient target. Heavy metal poison has induced autistic symptoms in some children, therefore all autism...blah, blah, blah.

Poisoning by mercury or other heavy metals is not the cause of most autism.
Chelation therapy is not a guaranteed autism cure.
These are pushed by liars, con artists and general meanies.

Foresam, your son most likely inherited autism from you and/or his mother. Environment plays a poorly understood role, also. A lot of adults on AS forums say they were diagnosed after one of their kids was diagnosed. I'm 51 and remember when people were diagnosed as ret*d, autistic (not AS), schizophrenic, manic-depressive, or nutty as a fruitcake. Psychiatry hasn't been around as a formal science that long, a lot of it is based on statistics, and most clinicians are not research-quality thinkers. As a result, it's taken a while for conditions like AS, PDD, ADD, ADHD, dyslexia, etc. to be defined. Even now, adult Aspies have problems with some mental health workers refusing to believe AS even exists.

Everyone is born with a problem to contend with in life. The key is to contend in a constructive way that minimizes the effects of the problem without becoming a constantly angry person over it. Your son has autism. A treatment may be found, but a cure isn't likely. Autistics have to work within that framework to live their lives as fully as they can. With your help, so can he. WrongPlanet is a good place to ask questions of other parents who are raising autistic kids.

BTW, I don't see the word "banned" on Foresam's posts. Is he banned?

Yes he has. I liked your post, MF.

That Mercury is a bad planet,not like friendly Pluto.

Sorry for sounding facetious,but I just can't take the immunisation claim
seriously

Sorry to be completely juvenile but has anyone noticed? Foresam - Foreskin? Muahahaha.

*snigger*

I believe it was commented on earlier this afternoon/evening - Alex closed the pertinent thread (not for Foreskin comments, either)

Who says it's more of a problem then it was? Where are all those undiagnosed ASD people of former generations? They obviously didn't make enough of an impression on (medical) society to warrant research.

In Joseph Conrad's The Secret Agent [c1900] there is a detailed description of a boy who without a doubt is AS

Undoubtedly that is why his blog has 'hating' and 'autism' in it's name.




Chlorine is poisonous, as is sodium. But sodium chloride (salt) is not. You'd have to investigate the used compound, as such.



Mercury isn't injected directly either, thiomersal is a compound.

But ... thiomersal is a preservative, used to kill bacteria that could infect through a vaccine. With or without mercury, in whatever form, the fact that it kills organisms would be a reason for me not to want it injected.




Neither can we change out autism, but you believe it is a matter of willpower, to think differently, to become different? If you we just hard enough we'll no longer be autistic? If one tries hard enough, if one just wills it one can become more intelligent or a mathematical genius?

You expose the same prejudice as so many regarding mental issues: it is 'in the mind' so it's not real and one can - and should - therefore change and if one fails to do so, it's a matter of unwillingness rather then physiology or biology.



Are they, really? There's plenty of abuse, misbehaviour, intolerance and lack of empathy between NT's and plenty of unhappiness arises from it. I think NT and ASD could all be living a lot better if people showed more tolerance and care towards each other.



Interesting argument ...
If you don't want to discuss something, don't discuss it.

I dunno, I think some kids probably are vaccine-damaged and have vaccine-induced autism (too many 'coincidences' for it to merely be coincidence), but certainly not the majority, and I don't even know if I could say that they truly have autism/AS or simply damage the mirrors the symptoms.

Anyway.

I'm sad I missed this... this person sounds really bitter and a bit twisted really; I wish I could have taught him something about this and helped him understand our viewpoint.

Not all autism is vaccine induced by any means; in fact I'd believe it's a very small percentage. And it isn't just thimerosal by any means, it's all the other toxic crap they add to them too.

What's wrong with us wanting to accept who we are anyway? I mean, what else are we gonna do, run around wishing we were NTs and getting our knickers in a twist about it? Personally, I LIKE being an aspie. I think I'm in good company, I love my wee quirks, I think aspies have done so much good for this world that it's almost like a privelage to be able to say I am one, variety is the spice of life... I honestly wouldn't have it any other way, and if a cure did come along I wouldn't want it for myself anyway. People trying to say we need to be cured is like saying the rest of the population needs a lobotomy.

So we can all be JUST LIKE each other.

Ick. Can't think of anything worse.

Foresam sounded like an idiot trying to insult, cause trouble, and just trying to sound stupid. You mean he has a kid? That is SCARY! I hope he lives in the US and someone calls CPS. Maybe the child will be better off.

And what kind of heavy metals have induced autistic symptoms? I mean mercury might be one of the closest, since it can cause you to go nuts, have siezures, and almost parkinson like symptoms, but that is still not autistic. Arsenic can bring you near death and almost look like radiation poisoning, but more just kills you. Lead can cause nerve damage and retardation. Aluminum can have effects similar to lead. Gold just passes through with no problem. Silver can change the color and texture of the skin. Even rhodium and Iridium are generally considered harmless in their pure form. Zinc is generally safe, and cadmium and osmium are toxic.

He lives in Massachusetts, but he has made friends with the cops there. They won't do a thing.

People have told him to put his son up for adoption for his own sake. He ignores them. He'd rather see his son in an institution. Sad. His son wouldn't survive a single day in one.

His profile says Australia.

But it kills harmful bacteria.

Give it to me plz.

Interesting thing. Some bacteria is killed by high temperatures, and some by low, so they now pasteurize milk. It is better than a preservative. They can ALSO fill the vial in a nitrogen environment while hot.(That means NO oxygen, and high pressure to boot, called vaccum packing!) This technology is like 100+ years old, and there has NEVER been anything imagined that is proven better. It is a bit better than what they do to create preserves and canned goods, and look how well THEY last! It is also cheap and relatively easy.

Many vaccines are based on a weakened bacterial or viral culture, often of a related but less-virulent disease. Heating such a vaccine enough to kill any unpleasant organisms infecting it, would also destroy its usefulness as a vaccine.

The supposed thimerosal link has been disproved, both by standardized epidemiological studies and by the experiences of the Netherlands, which removed thimerosal from all vaccines by law in 1999. Autism rates in the Netherlands have remained unchanged...