Hilarious website about nuerotypical disorder

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01 Jun 2009, 5:13 pm

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While I respect the intention of humor, attacks on groups of people aren't acceptable here. Please be aware as you continue - that is all.


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I don't see how it's any more of an attack on them, then their attempt to do the same exact thing to us?


We can't control what others say elsewhere, only our own reactions here. And on WP, such attacks are against the rules and guidelines.


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So then you view it as an attack that AS is considered a Neurological Disorder by NT's?


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02 Jun 2009, 6:01 am

No; I view it as a system of classification, one that is subject to use and abuse by individuals and society which may or may not have an effect on the affected person's interactions or position in social groups. Making posts mocking other groups, whether it be by religious views, political leanings, sexual preferences, or individual conditions (or even lack thereof) is not. In this instance, my post was a reminder for things not to deteriorate into another round of NT bashing, which does occur from time to time on WP. The original post is not an issue unto itself; more a preventative caution. Lastly, my point was that while others may choose to indulge in abuse and attacks, this is not a place for one to launch a counter-offensive - and often reaction only serves to fuel further nastiness.


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04 Jun 2009, 3:22 pm

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No; I view it as a system of classification, one that is subject to use and abuse by individuals and society which may or may not have an effect on the affected person's interactions or position in social groups. Making posts mocking other groups, whether it be by religious views, political leanings, sexual preferences, or individual conditions (or even lack thereof) is not. In this instance, my post was a reminder for things not to deteriorate into another round of NT bashing, which does occur from time to time on WP. The original post is not an issue unto itself; more a preventative caution. Lastly, my point was that while others may choose to indulge in abuse and attacks, this is not a place for one to launch a counter-offensive - and often reaction only serves to fuel further nastiness.


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Fair enough. My apologies for misinterpreting your original post.


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04 Jun 2009, 4:59 pm

Lol!! ! I enjoyed that site, shame the NT screening test is not working.

Edit: I LOVE THIS!! :D:D:D:D:D

AS scientists are currently working on a new range of wonder-drugs - Swarming Inhibitors (SI's) which it is hoped will prevent some of the more anti-social manifestations of NT such as a tendency to congregate in mobs, engage in vicious group character assassinations of outsiders, and in the extreme case to actually incite each other to mass acts of violence and destruction such as wars, pogroms, lynch mobs and the like.


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05 Jun 2009, 2:54 am

Sorry. but all of my (sadly few but very caring) friends are Neurotypical and I find this kind of site offensive and moronic.


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05 Jun 2009, 3:10 am

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Sorry. but all of my (sadly few but very caring) friends are Neurotypical and I find this kind of site offensive and moronic.

I'm sorry that you can't appreciate satirical humor. Every NT I've shown it to has found it to be at least a little bit funny.


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05 Jun 2009, 3:34 am

kalantir wrote:
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Sorry. but all of my (sadly few but very caring) friends are Neurotypical and I find this kind of site offensive and moronic.

I'm sorry that you can't appreciate satirical humor. Every NT I've shown it to has found it to be at least a little bit funny.


I love satire, but try telling a woman satirical 'time of the month' jokes and see where it gets you. Neurotypical bashing on this site is tiresome, divisive and counter productive. I wonder how funny your 'NT' friends would find the site in question if instead of being shown in isolation it was instead put together with the complete collection of 'NT' bashing posts on this site

Bashing people who are Neurotypical has absolutely no positive attributes when trying to raise understanding of our problems with the general public.

Try taking a leaf out of the Cerebral Palsy book. Steady Eddy in Aus raised so much public consciousness by satirizing himself rather than those around him, by doing this he alerted the rest of us to the problems faced by people with cerebral palsy. Websites like the one the OP is directing us too divide rather than bring together


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05 Jun 2009, 4:08 am

Gawd grumblers - you should have read this page
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Understanding the humor and message of ISNT

If you're confused about this site, either because English is not your first language or because you're an autistic person who is reading this website literally:

"The Institute for the Study of the Neurologically Typical" is not a real institute.

ISNT was created to show the arrogance and foolishness of much medical research on autism.

The articles on this website describe the neurotypical - "normal" - person as if they are diseased. This is not because the authors of this site think NTs are diseased. This is to illustrate the way that, by selecting and twisting the facts, medical researchers can portray autistics, who have a difference with positive (*) as well as negative attributes, as defective individuals and genetic mistakes.

The pompous way this website describes NTs as having a disorder is a parody, and is humorous.
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before deciding someone was poking fun at NTs again

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05 Jun 2009, 1:10 pm

IIRC, it was this very site we're on now that first directed me to ISNT, some years back. I thought it was frakking hilarious, and so did my (NT) wife.

It can also be used as an educational tool for NTs; in their world, satire is often used as a method of education on topics they ordinarily take for granted (see, for instance, Jonathan Swift's satirical article A Modest Proposal, poking fun at the then-common British concept of the Irish as an inferior species of man). A site like ISNT, I believe, could do more to teach NTs about the hidden assumptions in the common paradigm than a thousand lectures from Alex Plank and Amanda Baggs.


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05 Jun 2009, 6:19 pm

I have no problem with the Encyclopedia Dramatica entry on AS, and I have no problem with this.

I've seen far more controversial subject matter left uncommented on by moderators. The "rules" are becoming more and more arbitrarily applied.


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05 Jun 2009, 6:33 pm

FePixie wrote:
Gawd grumblers - you should have read this page
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Understanding the humor and message of ISNT

If you're confused about this site, either because English is not your first language or because you're an autistic person who is reading this website literally:

"The Institute for the Study of the Neurologically Typical" is not a real institute.

ISNT was created to show the arrogance and foolishness of much medical research on autism.

The articles on this website describe the neurotypical - "normal" - person as if they are diseased. This is not because the authors of this site think NTs are diseased. This is to illustrate the way that, by selecting and twisting the facts, medical researchers can portray autistics, who have a difference with positive (*) as well as negative attributes, as defective individuals and genetic mistakes.
The pompous way this website describes NTs as having a disorder is a parody, and is humorous.
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before deciding someone was poking fun at NTs again

:roll:


I agree.

I also understand why someone would talk about NTs as if they had a disorder, to turn the tables.

Too many people think of Aspies as defective, when the condition does have some positive effects. Neurotypicality has negative effects too, but no one would cast these things as 'symptoms'.


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06 Jun 2009, 5:28 pm

It's funny because it actually makes neurotypicals look so stupid.



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06 Jun 2009, 6:01 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
kalantir wrote:
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Sorry. but all of my (sadly few but very caring) friends are Neurotypical and I find this kind of site offensive and moronic.

I'm sorry that you can't appreciate satirical humor. Every NT I've shown it to has found it to be at least a little bit funny.


I love satire, but try telling a woman satirical 'time of the month' jokes and see where it gets you. Neurotypical bashing on this site is tiresome, divisive and counter productive. I wonder how funny your 'NT' friends would find the site in question if instead of being shown in isolation it was instead put together with the complete collection of 'NT' bashing posts on this site

Bashing people who are Neurotypical has absolutely no positive attributes when trying to raise understanding of our problems with the general public.

Try taking a leaf out of the Cerebral Palsy book. Steady Eddy in Aus raised so much public consciousness by satirizing himself rather than those around him, by doing this he alerted the rest of us to the problems faced by people with cerebral palsy. Websites like the one the OP is directing us too divide rather than bring together


Steady Eddy is a chronic alcoholic (or was) and hardly a success story. He turned himself into a freak show to entertain normal people, much in the same way circuses were often the only way 'freakish' people could make a living. In the end he was badly used by everyone around him and he wound up with nothing.

This is not a neutral site, it is pro-autism and anti cure.

As for the absurd assertion that attacking groups is not permitted here, perhaps one of the moderators needs to caution Alex about attacking Autism Speaks.



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08 Jun 2009, 2:35 am

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This is not a neutral site, it is pro-autism and anti cure.



Since when has being has a requirement for pro-autism included anti-neurotypical and as for anti-cure there are plenty who post on WP who are most definitely pro-cure


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08 Jun 2009, 4:28 am

well exactly Arthur!

If this website has no problem with anti-cure arguments then there is no ground for them to censor statements critical of NTs. That's why I find the proposed censure of the subject absurd. It's part of the subject matter of autism activism to discuss Neurotypicality and some people will express positive and negative views.