Dr. Phil program on extreme disorders..Aspergers & Toure

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lowfreq50
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15 Jan 2006, 12:02 am

I do believe that kid is in for some nationally televised trauma!



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15 Jan 2006, 12:07 am

lowfreq50 wrote:
I do believe that kid is in for some nationally televised trauma!

I wonder did he consent to this?


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15 Jan 2006, 1:51 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
lowfreq50 wrote:
I do believe that kid is in for some nationally televised trauma!

I wonder did he consent to this?


That's the part that gets me angry, that they're going to put that boy in front of a big, loud audience with millions of viewers watching. Can you imagine how overwhelming that is for someone who probably has trouble being the focus of attention in a normal setting? Then he's going to have "Dr." Phil screaming at him on top of that and telling him "get with the program" crap. I know I'd be a mess even as a grown, 31 year old if I was up on that stage. And no, I don't think the boy consented because of course, "he's only a minor so who cares about his feelings?" :evil:


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15 Jan 2006, 2:51 am

Discussion board for that show (3 messages so far): http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/914


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15 Jan 2006, 9:21 am

When I watched the preview on the Dr. Phil website, I said to myself "That's AS?" Either the cameras caught him in a meltdown by luck, all of them were dramatizing a meltdown, or his parents did something intentionally to provoke a meltdown.

The latter two seem more likely than the former, and, if either is the case, this is already pretty reprehensible.

I'll watch the show, but perhaps not immediately. I've already informed the TiVo. :lol:



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15 Jan 2006, 9:41 am

Can't wait for Dr. Phil to tell us to" straighten up" and "just get over it". :lol:


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15 Jan 2006, 9:50 am

Sophist wrote:
Can't wait for Dr. Phil to tell us to" straighten up" and "just get over it". :lol:
That is one of Dr Phil famous sayings for sure in the end.


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15 Jan 2006, 10:07 am

This should be very interesting.

I used to watch Dr.Phil in his 1st season....just becasue there was nothing else on.

In his second season it became very appearant to me that everything was played out to be more dramatic (especially the previews) to make it more sensational to all his mindless loyal viewers so they could have something to talkabout at work the next day.

It seems the parents are the ones to blame whenever there is a problem child on the show (I agree 100%)
I wounder what the case will be this time?



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15 Jan 2006, 10:41 am

The Dr. Phil show has become more melodramatic and chep as the seasons go on. They are very manipulative with editing. They will edit things to make the people on stage look worse than they are. You have to listen very carefully to tell that it is not a fluid conversation, but that it's edited.

There was a woman on a couple seasons ago, one of the "Family in Crisis" series, and she threatened to walk off because of how they were manipulating the recordings done in the home and how they were editing the dialogues with Dr Phil. They quoted things out of context and cut out explanations. This lady was a pretty nasty person but even I could tell they were twisting it to look worse than she was. They dehumanize the people on their stage while pretending it's "real" therapy.


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15 Jan 2006, 10:46 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
lowfreq50 wrote:
I do believe that kid is in for some nationally televised trauma!

I wonder did he consent to this?


Unfortunately in our society, minors have very few rights and if the U.S. keeps going in the direction it's going, it's going to keep getting worse. With the popularity of such people as Dr. Phil, John Rosemond, and other extremists, being a kid in the U.S.A. is going to be the worst it has ever been.

In other words, he doesn't have the right to not consent because he is a minor, and that's just the way people like Dr. Phil like it. I got to thinking about this topic earlier in the week when my wife pointed out an article about a teenager who died in one of those "boot camp" programs for so called "troubled teens." I think about how the parents allow the camp to send it's thugs in to take the kid from his bed in the middle of the night while he's sleeping and can't believe that is legal in the U.S.A. My wife's mother came to the U.S. from Haiti many years ago and her family still talks about people, even children and teenagers, who disappeared in the middle of the night in the same manner and were never seen again. I would bet if a couple of thugs came into these "parents'" homes in the middle of the night and tried to kidnap them in a similar manner, they'd be crying for the cops, their lawyers, and would need a change of underwear.

Back on the subject of Dr. Phil, I personally don't think he could help anyone with real problems. When you have a TV show, you can screen who comes on in advance and only have people on who have a chance of making you look good and the show can be carefully edited to only show the parts that make you look good while all the other stuff ends up on the cutting room floor. On the shows of his I've seen, he says the same thing over and over again, regardless of the problem. Unfortunately, the feeble minded all follow him blindly just because his association with Oprah Winfrey.

I've saw an interview with him that was quite interesting where in my opinion, he knocked the psychology profession. If I could find it again, I'd post it.

All I can say is if he's gotten a hold of AS, his message will probably make life more difficult for us.


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15 Jan 2006, 10:56 am

Lovely! Between William Freund, Geraldo, and Dr. Phil, my comfort level with disclosing AS is a big fat ZERO. Muddling through each day at work and pretending I'm not AS until I'm old enough to retire will probably kill me with stress, but so would being treated like crap at work for being different. :evil:



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15 Jan 2006, 1:03 pm

If I was doing it Id faint.



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15 Jan 2006, 1:04 pm

en_una_isla wrote:
The Dr. Phil show has become more melodramatic and chep as the seasons go on. They are very manipulative with editing. They will edit things to make the people on stage look worse than they are. You have to listen very carefully to tell that it is not a fluid conversation, but that it's edited.

There was a woman on a couple seasons ago, one of the "Family in Crisis" series, and she threatened to walk off because of how they were manipulating the recordings done in the home and how they were editing the dialogues with Dr Phil. They quoted things out of context and cut out explanations. This lady was a pretty nasty person but even I could tell they were twisting it to look worse than she was. They dehumanize the people on their stage while pretending it's "real" therapy.


I agree with what you say. Some of what he does I find scary to say the least. A few years ago, he did a week on Oprah he called the "Get Real Challenge." Alot of people applied to get on this show and what he did was frightening to say the least. He locked them all in a room and put them down, screamed at them, and did what I consider to be some sort of brainwashing technique. What I learned from reading online about it was it was a Large Group Awareness Training, aka LGAT. It was a type of cult style brainwashing and throughout it, he was portrayed as some sort of hero who was going to save these people from themselves. My wife watched it and thought it was interesting, but it sure scared the hell out of me.

Hopefully soon, he'll run his course and disappear from the airwaves, take all the money he's earned, and go live in retirement in peace, and not make trouble for the rest of us ever again.


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15 Jan 2006, 1:10 pm

I need to get a bunch of people to watch this and compare it to me just to prove how terrible Dr. Phil is. Looking at me, I'm the calmest person I know and show hardly any emotions at all. Sadly though, I was very violent and had yelling tantrums from 12-15. I was like that, but I doubt he plans on showing the evantual outcome through good parenting.


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15 Jan 2006, 1:13 pm

Dr. Phil isn't even a real "doctor" - The only reason he got his break was becasue he helped Oprah beat a lawsuit against cattle farmers. He's nothing more than a sociologist masqurading as a know it all psychologist.

No matter what... I'll be DVR'ing this tuesday.


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15 Jan 2006, 2:36 pm

Umm what channel is this show on?

Also, it mentioned Tourettes (sp?) in the show description, correct? Maybe this kid has both AS AND tourettes?