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04 Aug 2009, 4:18 pm

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So, I like the conversation :) One (if NT) just has to get past a few hurdles to be comfortable here.



What hurdles dost thou speaketh of?



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04 Aug 2009, 4:39 pm

8O NTs?! In my forum?!

Hehe. That was really unnecessary...



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04 Aug 2009, 4:46 pm

rathernotsay wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:

So, I like the conversation :) One (if NT) just has to get past a few hurdles to be comfortable here.



What hurdles dost thou speaketh of?


For me, as an NT parent of an AS child, the hurdle was was the idea that I should confine myself to the Parents section. Like a tourist too timid to go anywhere not in the guidebook, I initially stayed in what I considered was the only place where I should be. Then I got up the nerve to post all over the place. I still stay out of The Haven though. It seems as improper for me to go there as it would be improper for an adult to go into the Kids Crater or Adolescent Forum (which I also don't go into).



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04 Aug 2009, 5:18 pm

Janissy wrote:
rathernotsay wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:

So, I like the conversation :) One (if NT) just has to get past a few hurdles to be comfortable here.



What hurdles dost thou speaketh of?


For me, as an NT parent of an AS child, the hurdle was was the idea that I should confine myself to the Parents section. Like a tourist too timid to go anywhere not in the guidebook, I initially stayed in what I considered was the only place where I should be. Then I got up the nerve to post all over the place. I still stay out of The Haven though. It seems as improper for me to go there as it would be improper for an adult to go into the Kids Crater or Adolescent Forum (which I also don't go into).


it's fine for you to go to the haven.. you might be able to give advice which we cant.


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04 Aug 2009, 10:02 pm

rathernotsay wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:

So, I like the conversation :) One (if NT) just has to get past a few hurdles to be comfortable here.



What hurdles dost thou speaketh of?


For me, it was getting used to the way of speaking and interacting. The, um, reduced use of social convention and all that. To not take it personally, and also to learn to be much clearer in my speaking - more literal and exact - and to learn some different terminology. I'm thinking more of when I first posted on Aspies for Freedom, which was the first AS forum I found; by the time I came here I was used to it. I still observe new parents coming to the parenting forum for the first time sometimes bristling at the tone that they can encounter; it is an important learning process for us, however. One does have to learn to consider many things in a different way. I guess we get a small taste of what life has been like for some of you. A very small one.


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05 Aug 2009, 12:03 am

Having NTs here is a good sign.It means they want to understand us and the spectrum and it means they do care.IMHO we should make them feel welcome and not be so negative towards all NTs.There are those who are bullies, but they do not represent all NTs.


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05 Aug 2009, 12:23 am

I am glad that there are some Nt's here. They are willing to try to understand us, and to help themselves understand a friend, relative, student, etc. I wish my husband would come here to see what my world is like and to try to understand me.



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05 Aug 2009, 4:48 am

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I came to get a heads-up on what issues my daughter may face as an adult. I stayed for the in-depth discussions and groovy avatars.


Speaking of which, when do we get to see YOUR groovy avatar?!? I would recommend something feline... but I might be biased ;)


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05 Aug 2009, 3:50 pm

I am here because my son may have AS and I want to understand it. TO be completely honest, most of the posts make me feel better and hopeful for him but some (like the one where NTs are compared to dogs) make me sad for my son. Please don't be offended, I am just being honest. As you know, we NTs see things differently!!



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05 Aug 2009, 6:30 pm

NT Planet topic

Maybe we should get a sub forum for them (featuring Greentea's Sticky re:NT HOTLINE).

I do not see any problem with the way AS people here communicate. But then, I am also AS. :P


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05 Aug 2009, 6:33 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
rathernotsay wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:

So, I like the conversation :) One (if NT) just has to get past a few hurdles to be comfortable here.



What hurdles dost thou speaketh of?


For me, it was getting used to the way of speaking and interacting. The, um, reduced use of social convention and all that. To not take it personally, and also to learn to be much clearer in my speaking - more literal and exact - and to learn some different terminology. I'm thinking more of when I first posted on Aspies for Freedom, which was the first AS forum I found; by the time I came here I was used to it. I still observe new parents coming to the parenting forum for the first time sometimes bristling at the tone that they can encounter; it is an important learning process for us, however. One does have to learn to consider many things in a different way. I guess we get a small taste of what life has been like for some of you. A very small one.

Could you give us an example of this? I'm so curious. :wink:


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05 Aug 2009, 7:01 pm

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I also wonder if some NTs have a different psychiatric/neurological disorder that puts them in a social or interpersonal situation similar to people with AS/ASDs, and so coming to WP would be potentially valuable or interesting for them.

Yep, I don't think I have AS (I plan to get evaluated, just to be sure) but I have found some topics of interest here. Social misfit-ism is the same, irregardless of the cause.

But I don't post, I feel out of place.



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05 Aug 2009, 8:42 pm

I think it's good that we have NTs here. The ones who usually join, have a genuine interest in AS and autism.


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05 Aug 2009, 9:14 pm

I have sometimes wondered why there are NTs here as well. But it doesn't bother me as long as they don't try to be rude with us. An NT began communicating with me some on this site, and at first she said she felt like she was trespassing. She has a genuine interest in AS, and I told her she was more than welcome here. She is very supportive of our views. And she seems to be having a good time in our community. Honestly, I don't mind the NTs here---what better way for us that our autistic to share our views of our autism. I have enjoyed sharing my view of my autism---and I don't mind who reads it---even those times that I have shared on The Haven when I felt down.


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06 Aug 2009, 2:50 am

It could be that we come here because we really don't know what to make of ourselves. We find we have some surprising things in common with those who are diagnosed with AS. Then again we find that some of these people are convinced that they have been mis-diagnosed. So who's to say where that line really is, anyways? I think it's a lot fuzzier than most people realize.


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06 Aug 2009, 4:22 am

NTs find it a bit alien in here, in my (limited) experience. My partner, for example, zips in here occasionally to see what I've been saying, but she zips out again ASAP and doesn't go back. I find being able to listen into a space where people know about and are dealing with aspergers extraordinarily valuable, but I can see why it would feel weird to a stranger. After all, I passed for normal for half a century