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07 Aug 2009, 9:45 am

'Always' usually applies to 'a lifetime and unless there exist new possibilities to change current definitives'.

It's used in the sense as 'I always have coffee in the morning'.

People say that things like that all the time, but they can't have it 'always' but only for as long as they live and actually only had it in the past and have it in the present, seeing how they cannot know what happens in the future.

In this case, you're interpreting 'always' too literally for what most people mean if you take it to point out a definitive eternal truth.


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07 Aug 2009, 10:35 am

Sora, speaking to me or Magneto ? (or the two of us)


If speaking to me I admit I tend to use word too literally for most people, but I got hard time to see how to apply what you said to my previous statement.



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07 Aug 2009, 2:09 pm

To the post above my previous one, to Magneto.


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08 Aug 2009, 1:39 am

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Some people on this forum still take the position 'once an Aspie, always an Aspie'. I was just pointing out that such an idea is logically opposed to the concept of a 'cure'. If premise A is true, premise B can't be, so it is impossible (without doublethink) to support both premises.


"Always"? Do we know "once an Aspie always an Aspie" is shown to be an empirically tested universal, or is it just a reasoned saying?

Many say in order to prove a universal, you have to be everywhere/everytime at once, otherwise it's just inductive logic. Similarly, the only way you can prove gravity is universal is to be everywhere at once. If gravity is universal, it's a given that it'll work 1,000 times. However, if it works 1,000 times, it doesn't mean the reverse that gravity is universal, because there could be an alternative law saying only in such and such situations does it work that way.

Anyway, could it be possible that just like scientists have found ways to turn other elements into gold, future technology could turn AS/HFA into neurotypicals, just like the cure for mutants in X-Men 3? If they learn to control scientific principles and perhaps some lateral thinking added to the box?



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08 Aug 2009, 1:47 am

iniudan wrote:
cognitive education can also make it seem to be less present to the NT (did some, it seem to help a bit with the NT but if I could act naturally without been judged I would return to the old way right away)


I'm interested in learning more, since I haven't been diagnosed. What type of "cognitive education"? What exactly did they do?



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08 Aug 2009, 7:17 am

NicksQuestions wrote:
iniudan wrote:
cognitive education can also make it seem to be less present to the NT (did some, it seem to help a bit with the NT but if I could act naturally without been judged I would return to the old way right away)


I'm interested in learning more, since I haven't been diagnosed. What type of "cognitive education"? What exactly did they do?


I could also say cognitive therapy (but were not sick just different so I prefer to use alternative word that come to work (at least in my mind)).

Basically it just training in doing some gesture that seem less awkward to the NT, can be something has simple has looking at people when you speak with them up to work on non-verbal understanding. Can also be the suppressing of some habit (I suggest you don't do that except if you think that so-and-so habit put you in too many stressful situation, for no need to work on something that risk to never feel natural if what natural is not disturbing (working on been more accepting of your own weirdness would be better idea in such case))

To make it short it training to adapt yourself to the surrounding environment. Which in our case happen to be the "normal" world.



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08 Aug 2009, 8:17 am

I would never ever trade any of my syndrome for anything in this wOrld...:P


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08 Aug 2009, 8:28 am

visnofskygirl wrote:
I would never ever trade any of my symptoms for anything in this wOrld...:P



And me I would never trade my very logic mind, too bad that most NT find it hell annoying and almost never want to have deeper conversation then social chitchat. (Which I learned to participate in, but mostly do it to introduce myself in hope it quickly switch to something more interesting, which rarely happen)

And what symptoms, your not sick, you just a weird person like most of us on this board. =p



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08 Aug 2009, 9:03 am

iniudan wrote:
visnofskygirl wrote:
I would never ever trade any of my symptoms for anything in this wOrld...:P



And me I would never trade my very logic mind, too bad that most NT find it hell annoying and almost never want to have deeper conversation then social chitchat. (Which I learned to participate in, but mostly do it to introduce myself in hope it quickly switch to something more interesting, which rarely happen)

And what symptoms, your not sick, you just a weird person like most of us on this board. =p


Haha,I typed it wrong..It should be "syndrome" and not "symptoms"..gotta edit the post


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