What do you believe about the vaccine theroy?

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To me it is almost like a 'conspiracy theory' to dismiss all this parents who's recall of events are so similar to mine.

You are 17 I can read. Question:

"How many children do you have had that got vaccinated?"

I believe we're talking about a bunch of parents who refuse to believe there could be anything wrong with their genes.

I am inclined to agree, ed. My experience has lead me to the conviction that many of these parents simply don't want to hear that it's not someone else's fault. They want to blame someone, anyone but themselves.

AS traits have been fairly consistent in my mother's side of the family, well before the MMR vaccine, or any vaccine was available. Hard to explain that without there being some genetic component involved.

My son was very jaundiced for a long tome after he was born ( longer then his sister).
He did seem more fragile then his sister and way quieter...
but he did change after his last shots he became as a toddler.

I only get angry at people that write stuff like you:


How dare you put yourself into my shoes , you were not there on that day and you did not know my son before or after!

BS is the crap of a bull, not more or not less; not validated as an argumentative, substantial, informative segment of a discussion

Gen-autic topic

Blame the milkman.

I was just wondering whether certain countries and/or areas have a higher proportion of AS/Autism, for example Silicon Valley and Australia.

You agree with "Bull s**t" ?...I agree a bull s**ts, so do we...


What I do agree with is you writing that traits run in families , there are traits one can
point out to in my husbands as well as in my family...
I still believe it can not be dismissed that these vaccinations given back then contributed to a major insult on the brain.

Trust me I am in no way denying that my mother was always an oddity to me or my dad with his short temper...

So the Moderator can write BS and mine get's asterixed?

There is greater exposure through food contamination (seafood) and the refuse of technology than what is included with a vaccination; there are myriad ways to be exposed to mercury, and to latch upon a single explanation when there are obviously many paths those here took in their own development is somewhat futile. The combination of causes is still something that remains unknown, and likely will in my opinion until the cross-influences are more examined.


M.

Please, please, can you stop venting your anger repeatedly Biene? I know it can be hard to leave a situation that infuriates and consider it calmly, but your 5 answers to the same quotes really disrupt the reading flow of this topic and it is very irritating to read. A constructive come-back even to what you might consider non-constructive comments are more likely to get people's attention in a reasonable and sensible way which I assume is in your interest if you are as passionate about this topic as you sound.

So I have a question.

Why would somebody's age be relevant to this discussion about vaccines?

Most teenagers and adults of today were vaccinated. I cannot think of a reason to restrict the vaccine and autism debate to small children of today and these children's experiences with vaccinations.

I don't think anyone denies that we are living on a planet were it has become almost irresponsible to reproduce.

I just wished though I could play you the movie that runs through my head how my son was before the shot and a couple of hours after. How his leg was stiff on injection side and how he screamed the whole day and half through the night and the phone call to the doctors office and he just telling me " it's just a little reaction"...next day multiple seizures in hospital, doctor administrating phenobarbitol....

something went wrong and I do not blame anyone

I am not embarrassed about genetics, how can I , it is just what it is

but to change an event into false history and to tell people it is just their imagination etc. is not contributing to science , nor beneficial to anyone for that matter...
and that is the end of this discussion it for me

That you and your son went through such trauma is something that makes me sad... vaccinations have caused reactions for many reasons, not solely due to the mercury or other content. And, as said, it is likely more of a catalytic cascade effect than actually causing the disorder in the first place. I do not question the events you experienced, but I do caution about attaching too much certainty to their effects.


M.

Surely what the traits were referred to in the past has nothing to do with the vaccine?
The reason people who would now be diagnosed with ASDs were called "eccentric" in the past is because autism was much less widely understood by both professionals and the general public.
People were referred to as "eccentric" because their characteristics did not fit in with the norm. "Eccentric" was just a word to describe unusual characteristics, just as "Autism" is a word to describe certain characteristics that differ from the social norm.
They are both just words that are used to indicate a set of traits. What has the vaccination got to do with this?



I don't quite understand what my age or lack of children has got to do with anything.
My brothers and I were all vaccinated and my mother doesn't believe in the vaccination theory at all and neither do I.

It's all BS, scientists found that out a while ago.