What if everyone in the world had AS?

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31 Aug 2009, 4:05 pm

I think any world which was populated with humans would have an underlying chaos, it doesnt really matter which sort of human. It would not be a peaceful world because we are not a peaceful species. Life isnt peaceful.

I think that there would be a sort of order to things though, sensory problems would be more understood, people would be more blunt and straightforward, there might be more confrontation though people might be more likely to get over it faster as they may not take it as personally as an NT would. There might be wars, though only the war game enthusiasts would bother organising it.. everyone else would get tired of the fight and go off and play on the computer.

Interests would certainly be prized and valued.. there might even be Interest Holidays. :lol:

I sort of think that aspies might split off into factions, ie orderly aspies might find it hard to live with messy aspies with less executive function. Or, alexithymic aspies might have difficulty understanding very emotional aspies (I see that happening on this board every day.)

But I dont think it would be a utopia, any more than any group of humans can create a utopia.


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31 Aug 2009, 4:57 pm

I think it could quite possibly become a big mess. We have not only taken the heat from NTs, but other Aspies as well.

We'd get in in our heads that something is right, and another would disagree, then we would wind up distraught, everyone trying to pull out facts and numbers for why they are right and the other person is wrong, etc.

I could imagine a bunch of people forming small "tribes" based on special interests, sensory issues (I can't count how many times I've seen someone say they can't stand the sound of a pencil tapping... and I'm a pencil tapper, lol).

It would be quite divided all the same, because heck, half the time I have a divided household if my son and I don't see eye to eye on an issue, or I wind up annoyed due to one of his sensory issues and vice versa.

Though we understand one another, it wouldn't make much of a difference... we are all too different in ways for it to be a "utopia" by the end of it.


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31 Aug 2009, 5:18 pm

Thanks for the honest replies.

Something to reflect on. Apparently the world wouldn't suddenly be a perfect place if there were no NT's. People that have "issues" are people that have issues, regardless of whether they're NT or AS. We all need to do the best we can to reach out to those who are different than us (NT or AS) and try to see things from their perspective. Easier said than done, I know. But you're bound to have better results than if you are simply looking for someone to scapegoat.



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31 Aug 2009, 6:49 pm

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That be cool but there still be jerks and bullies and criminals and pecking orders.


I have thought of a story, it be about the majority being aspie so they are the norm but this one kid is NT and is impairs him because he is different and he can't follow anyones standards so he gets diagnosed with Neurotypical syndrome.


Sweet! Please send that my way when it's finished, I would very much love to read it.

What happens to him? Does he get treatment for being NT?


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31 Aug 2009, 6:54 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
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That be cool but there still be jerks and bullies and criminals and pecking orders.


I have thought of a story, it be about the majority being aspie so they are the norm but this one kid is NT and is impairs him because he is different and he can't follow anyones standards so he gets diagnosed with Neurotypical syndrome.


Sweet! Please send that my way when it's finished, I would very much love to read it.

What happens to him? Does he get treatment for being NT?


You know... we're always talking about aspie depictions of us in the movies, and wanting others to see it from our perspective. They would be unable from an Aspie's point of view, as they do not live it and wouldn't relate well. I wonder if Spokane's idea would work for a movie to show NTs how misunderstood we are in the world.


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31 Aug 2009, 7:48 pm

granatelli wrote:
Thanks for the honest replies.

Something to reflect on. Apparently the world wouldn't suddenly be a perfect place if there were no NT's. People that have "issues" are people that have issues, regardless of whether they're NT or AS. We all need to do the best we can to reach out to those who are different than us (NT or AS) and try to see things from their perspective. Easier said than done, I know. But you're bound to have better results than if you are simply looking for someone to scapegoat.


Truer words have never been spoken granatelli! I think you got my point, and are on the right track. As for me, I'm working on it. Good thread! Thank you.



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31 Aug 2009, 7:49 pm

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31 Aug 2009, 8:15 pm

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Everyday conversations would probably get to the point a little quicker without all of the small talk, BUT most of the time any kind of conversation would involve each person trying to pull the conversation in a different way toward one of their obsessions. I've noticed this when i have a conversation with a spectrum-y friend of mine... He keeps talking about all the songs that are going to be in the next rock band game while i keep talking about the upcoming reptile expo or something... When both sides are pulling the conversation toward a different interest and maybe inserting a random out-of-nowhere observation here and there, it doesn't "flow" very well at all.

I've noticed this, too, and I'm totally guilty!


Exactly the same here.

I started noticing that I did that aged 18 1/2....wondered why....


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01 Sep 2009, 12:13 am

I agree with most that the economic situation would probably be worst. But I think in terms of happiness/stress the world would be better off since people would not care about as much about useless junk. There would obviously be some problems like with the sensory issues or obsessions but because everyone would have AS some solutions would be in place and ultimately i think it would be a better place. I wouldn't be able to watch hockey since it seems most people with AS don't like team sports (unless the social part would be less awkward in that world) but then I would probably have a girlfriend :D
Also, this forum would not exist 8O



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01 Sep 2009, 12:21 am

fiddlerpianist wrote:
If everyone in the world had AS, then Aspies would be neurotypical.

Think about that one for a moment. :)


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01 Sep 2009, 4:07 pm

Well, here is a thought. What if certain positions in the world required an individual with AS. If, say, politicians were required to have AS, its possible there would be less "cloak and dagger" stuff going on because many of us couldnt lie, and therefore dont (plus its too much of a strain to come up with something elaborate yet believable). On the downside, foreign relations would likely suck so theyd have to have an emotional interpretor and lingual interpretor. But, as pointed out on several occassions, people in the spectrum tend to make excellent researchers and engineers (Einstein and Newton). Problem is that its kinda hard for some of us to get degrees, PhD's, etc. If anything, the college system would have to be replaced or upgraded in such a way that makes it easier for people to get into their profession of interest. But Ive probably veered from the topic.

As for everyone in the world being an Aspie, well . . . with our limited social interaction and taking stuff literally, would probably mean the end of the species due to a decline in reproduction. But, im probably looking too far into it since ive not yet heard of any Aspie/Aspie marriages. If anything, a world of Aspies and understanding NTs would be preferred.



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01 Sep 2009, 10:19 pm

The wonderful world of AS topic

If everyone was AS, then no one would be, and we would have to invent them!! :P


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01 Sep 2009, 11:29 pm

I once saw a movie along these lines, called "What's So Bad About Feeling Good?" In the movie a virus comes to New York city from a Russian freighter. The virus causes people to get giddy happy, which pretty much brings New York city to a standstill as cops feel too happy to ticket people, and cabbies are too happy to drive people places, and so on ...

If everyone was ASpie, we'd prolly stand around trying to be the best at Star Trek trivia instead of declaring war on other nations ....


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02 Sep 2009, 8:43 am

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This goes off in two wildly different directions depending on your timeline. Would this neurology have been there from the start of humanity or would it be something that everybody suddenly woke up with one day?

You didn't post the third alternative: that everyone being born now had AS. Sure, the effects wouldn't be seen for a few years, but... it would widen the gulf between the young and the old even more, as the older, 'NT' generation wouldn't be able to understand the younger Aspies.

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If everyone was ASpie, we'd prolly stand around trying to be the best at Star Trek trivia instead of declaring war on other nations ....

You're assuming that everyones special interest is Star Trek.

We'd have to specialise a lot more, probably. Although people with more severe autism would be encouraged to be Aspie, and actually communicate, and widen their interests, and at least learn some social skills... although not as much as they are today. I think a lot of the social bitchieness would disappear, though, and people would be more direct and honest. As the new satying go's, 'If you can't say anything truthful to anyone, don't say anything at all'.



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02 Sep 2009, 12:17 pm

I'd have a party and start a space travel convention in a big city. We'd all discuss the possibilties and ideas to anything spacey, and have a sponge cake that looks like hyperion (the moon) in structure, and I wouldn't be the only one that understood the food pun represented by such a tasty sponge cake.

Oh sure, it wouldn't be utopian heaven if everyone was AS. The viking battle enthusiasts would be arguing with the civil war buffs on who could use the feild on wednesdays for staged battles. The book stores would be in legal battle over the issue of science fiction books, and whether it should be placed closer to the fantasy fiction or the true science section. For that matter, if all three section deserve there own separate store room. And NASA would be out competed (for once) by private citizens on a yearly basis for new discoveries, since some of us are obsessed to build our own telescopes. *sigh* What a dis-utopia that would be! The car salesman as we know it would go extinct.



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02 Sep 2009, 12:24 pm

It'd probably be the best joke ever.