Missing group in Aspie-quiz found

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So maybe I would answer "a little"?

Just got one of those "revelations".

A while ago I tried to prove that Aspies would also like snuggling or hugging, so I tried every possible configuration of such a question, and they all failed.

Now I have a new idea how to make such a question load on Aspies instead of NTs. Just study the conclusion of friendships. Aspies prefer opposite gender friendships. If you ask people if they like unexpected hugs, you inevitably ask them "do you like unexpected hugs from people of your own gender?". People would start thinking about peer-relationships and sport players and things. So, they will fail when you ask Aspies them because of the wrong associations. But what if you instead ask this: "do you like unexpected hugs from people of the opposite gender?". This is a completely different question.

In fact, I think adding "from somebody of the opposite gender" to some of these questions might give very different results.

While it's a different question, I doubt you will get drastically different results unless you throw in "from people you like a lot" instead of "from the opposite gender." The way people talk about their issues with touch around doesn't really appear to discriminate on gender; it seems more likely to discriminate based on familiarity with that person.

Myself, I've always felt like I've had the opposite issue from those here who don't like to be touched. I enjoy "too much" touching and was always overly affectionate with friends and relatives growing up. It was pretty much gender indiscriminate.

Not that I can speak for a trait that you are particularly looking for. I can only speak for me.

This has basically been tried, and it didn't work. Anyway, even if NTs still get higher scores, it would be interesting to see how this clusters with the "partner obsession" traits and the preference to have friends of the opposite gender. If it does cluster on those, the point is still proved even if NTs still get higher scores.



Me too, which probably is why I want to prove this issue. However, I don't like the idea of hugs from males.

I have the same problem with questions like this that are based on my knowing what other people think/feel. I have no idea, and I don't know how to answer. Sometimes another person has told me what he/she thinks/feels, so I know about that particular person, but how do I know whether or not he/she represents others?

I'll add my agreement with statements from darby54 and pandd, since I too often don't know if I'm right about what I think someone else is thinking or feeling.

Separately, some of the new questions should, in my view, be phrased to accommodate adult Aspies who have learned to do things (such as urinate in a public bathroom) but took 10 to 15 years to get to the point of doing so. Yes, now at 40+ I can do my business there, but it took until I was in my late 20s to reach that point.

Further, I think the basic approach of a more comprehensive question set is sound. Most of the screening instruments I've seen are too short, and skip over important issues, or simplify complex issues to one question. Exactly how you weigh all the questions to calculate a final score is something I'd be interested in seeing/hearing about.

Certainly this is an improvement over not having “non response” options. However, if this addressed the concerns I am trying to convey, I would not have posted about them.

Encountering questions I cannot answer because of traits arising from AS in a quiz that screens for such traits, is frustrating and demoralizing. Encountering these problems in environments constructed without regard to AS traits is frustrating and demoralizing; encountering the same in a context that is supposed to include those with AS is significantly more so.

The effects of the kind of distraction this entails, negatively impacts my ability to answer subsequent questions, which raises the incident of questions that are too hard to answer, increasing the negative emotional response, intensifying the distraction, causing yet worse performance, and so on.

I have strong compulsive urges to answer questions I am presented with. Not doing so is actually significantly discomforting to the extent where I often must answer rhetorical questions posed by newscasters reading the headlines on the news. I am highly motivated to give a meaningful answer such that relying on me to not answer questions I am unclear on, is unrealistic without an explicit statement/request, and may not be plausible even with such clarification. This may be an uncommon trait, but have you actually tested for this?

I got significantly different scores when someone gave me input while taking the quiz, so in my instance at least, these issues are impacting the outcome.


All true of course, and what has already been done by rdos in respect of this quiz is certainly not shoddy work, nor an inconsiderable achievement.

In my experience the issues I have raised and the problems raised by fiddlerpianist (regarding question ambiguity) are not particular to rdos’s quiz, nor worse than those found in similar screening tests, while having more questions (reducing the impact of_“?” responses on individual results) and allowing “?” responses is an improvement on other tests I have participated in.

I'll make an attempt to remove a few more of those "compare-yourself-to-others" questions, but it is not easy to come up with alternatives that work just as well and that are linked to the same traits. Simon Baron-Cohen's EQ test did have some interesting alternatives that were both NT-formulated and quite relevant. (then, of course, there were some that had no relevance).

The question about hugs have failed again. Right now there is 80% chance that this was once again a NT-trait (N=128).

On the bright side, I've identified a few more Aspie-social traits which will help in putting it all together.
- Do you want to always be around your partner (or imaginary partner) and do everything together? (related to partner obsessions)
- Do you prefer to try to find your own niche in work/life?
- Are you highly competitive in your area of expertise?