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20 Mar 2015, 7:30 am

I used to as a kid, but only to people who'd made fun of me.



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20 Mar 2015, 12:52 pm

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I do, and always have. I enjoy banter, and ribbing with people. The important thing is knowing when to stop, and what lines not to cross.


This all the way ;D

specially the part when to stop.. :p



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20 Mar 2015, 4:52 pm

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I'd always thought being on the receiving end of mockery made one more sensitive to the feelings of others, but often it's exactly the opposite. :(


How so ? I was tormented growing up which is why I see it as mean to make fun of others.

I see it a lot of WP, and I just thought that those people are higher functioning/non-learning delayed, and did not suffer such torment.


Please note I said, "often it's exactly the opposite," not always or even most times. Like you, the torment I received made me more sensitive to the pain of others, and that's why I see it as mean to make fun of others as well. But there are many people who become bitter and decide to torment somebody else rather than try hard not to hurt others the way they've been hurt--in effect, the bullied becomes the bully.

I've seen many such people outright state that since others treated them like crap, it's just fine for them to do that to others, even if those others are not the ones responsible for their pain. I've also many times been on the receiving end of such people's anger, when I never wronged them myself, and had sometimes never even interacted with them! When I asked why they would do that to people who have never once hurt them, they got angry and attacked me again and either said those people would never care for them anyway so they're fair game, or that all people are exactly the same and so deserve to be treated the same, or some other such argument, trying to justify their behavior. While at the same time still complaining that others do the same to them. It's like they can't even see the contradiction. :|

Even I occasionally have my moments when I'm so tired of being hurt by others that it seems like it'd be easier to hurt somebody else because chances are they're going to end up hurting me anyway. :cry: Though I try to fight such feelings.

Like I said, I don't think this is how it happens most times, but it happens far more than I'd thought it would, and I find this fact discouraging. :( I've even been ridiculed BECAUSE I don't turn my anger on others the way some people do, and because I find it wrong to do so. (Bleeding-heart, sap, naïve, part of the problem...I've heard it all. Just because I see no justification in becoming a bully. Keep in mind much of this ridicule came from people who WERE bullied.)

I'm not sure what you mean with your "I see it a lot of WP..." sentence, but then again I haven't been on this forum very long or interacted very much. I try not to judge the functioning of people who make fun of or do not make fun of others, since everyone's circumstances are vastly different.

I hope none of this was offensive, I just feel part of my comment was misunderstood and wished to clarify. :oops: If I in fact misunderstood your question, then I apologize.



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20 Mar 2015, 4:58 pm

I do. It's hilarious. It also basically makes me invulnerable to other people making fun of me because I have learned to just not care.


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20 Mar 2015, 5:09 pm

Of course Aspergians make fun of people. They can be as guilty of being hateful and cruel as any NT.

Just look at any thread on here that's likely to elicit comments on politics and watch the Liberal Aspies hate on anything remotely Conservative. They've been programmed by Leftist Media, to believe that anyone who doesn't subscribe to what they've been told is smart and sophisticated thinking, is a stupid rube.

Without even thinking about it, they repeat the same rote, tired insults that they've learned from Bill Maher and Jon Stewart. They can't even tell the difference between a Republican and a Libertarian, they think all Conservative thought is automatically stupid, the Liberal Mainstream News Media is more truthful than Fox News, Democrats never lie, make mistakes or say anything ridiculous (except for Joe Biden), and they spew all sorts of rudeness and hate without conscious thought.

Because, of course, if you think like the people who pose as hip, wide-open-minded, intellectuals, that automatically makes you right about everything, and anyone who doesn't agree, a complete idiot :roll:


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21 Mar 2015, 1:21 am

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do people with Asperger's Syndrome make fun of other people?


It depends on how you mean...I mean me and people I hang out with sometimes joke about each other, but not to be mean just for a bit of fun, and I'll take part in that. But I don't bully people or try to make them feel bad for some sick pleasure...I have gotten angry with people and gotten into arguments where I've said not the nicest of thing but that comes along with arguments and usually both parties say stuff out of anger.


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21 Mar 2015, 1:54 am

will@rd wrote:
Of course Aspergians make fun of people. They can be as guilty of being hateful and cruel as any NT.

Just look at any thread on here that's likely to elicit comments on politics and watch the Liberal Aspies hate on anything remotely Conservative. They've been programmed by Leftist Media, to believe that anyone who doesn't subscribe to what they've been told is smart and sophisticated thinking, is a stupid rube.

Without even thinking about it, they repeat the same rote, tired insults that they've learned from Bill Maher and Jon Stewart. They can't even tell the difference between a Republican and a Libertarian, they think all Conservative thought is automatically stupid, the Liberal Mainstream News Media is more truthful than Fox News, Democrats never lie, make mistakes or say anything ridiculous (except for Joe Biden), and they spew all sorts of rudeness and hate without conscious thought.

Because, of course, if you think like the people who pose as hip, wide-open-minded, intellectuals, that automatically makes you right about everything, and anyone who doesn't agree, a complete idiot :roll:


Aren't you generalizing just a wee bit? I am certainly much more liberal than conservative, but I do not hate anything remotely conservative I hate things that I actually have reason to hate...hating something just because its more associated with conservative views seems kinda stupid to me. I have not been programmed by any media I look at various news/media sources with varying biases to get my info and then form opinions. That said plenty of conservative media is laughable as well....Fox News anyone? Plenty of conservatives are programmed by their respective conservative biased media and think anything that seems 'liberal' is an evil threat to the precocious morality of this country. Disagreeing with right wing perspectives is hardely the same thing as hating on anything remotely conservative..and I have seen more of the former here, also have seen the latter on both sides...not just one or the other.

I don't find regurgitated insults very useful...and am of the opinion name calling, or personal attacks and what not take away from any potential of a rational conversation, people on both the left and the right do this however, its not like its just liberals and conservatives are always the poor, innocent, persecuted victim.

Mainstream media in general is biased garbage regardless of if its more right wing or left wing baised....I don't care much for the republican party, as its not liberal enough for me and has some double standards and hypocrisy and have taken part in legislation which interferes with personal lifestyle choices and freedoms...and attempts at banning various artistic expression or blaming things like that Columbine shooting a while back on rock musicians because sometimes the lyrics delve into dark topics. I think I've maybe watched Bill Maher once if that, and found him rather boring and not sure who John Stewart is so not sure how I would have learned much from either of them.

Also I don't pose as anything, nor do I feel my political leanings or level of intelligence or open mindedness means I am always right and that anyone who disagrees or has another perspective is wrong...that would make me just as bad as the self righteous conservatives who use the term liberal as a dirty word, and think anyone who's not a gun toting flag waving god fearing white american christian is a 'soviet'. Don't mean to derail the thread but since you went out of your way to paint everyone with liberal leanings in a very negative light I figured a rebuttal was in order :wink:


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21 Mar 2015, 3:18 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Aren't you generalizing just a wee bit?...


Thank you very much for this post. (I wished to offer my own rebuttal, but...well, I always seem to get in trouble when I do.)



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21 Mar 2015, 7:44 am

I wish I can still make fun of people. I think I'm rather gifted in doing that (and joking). But since I'm a mature adult I have to be sensitive to people's feelings, I hardly ever do it. Of course all my family members get teased by me all the time. :)

It's hard to not offend people when you're ENTP. :) Theoretically I shouldn't really care, but an adult has to clean up all the mess their actions caused, and I don't want more work. I really think aspies who are introverted have an easier time when it comes to this. If you don't have the urge to speak you aren't likely to offend people.


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21 Mar 2015, 8:57 am

I make fun with other people.



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21 Mar 2015, 9:52 am

pirateowl76 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Aren't you generalizing just a wee bit?...


Thank you very much for this post. (I wished to offer my own rebuttal, but...well, I always seem to get in trouble when I do.)


I just grow tired of the liberal this, liberal that, its all the fault of liberals any problems in the world exist rationale. Sure there are rude people and extreme people who identify as being liberal who are insulting to people who disagree or hold more right wing views but that hardly represents everyone who identifies such.


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21 Mar 2015, 9:59 am

Humans are an absurd species that deserve to be made fun of and mocked at every turn.


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21 Mar 2015, 4:33 pm

I do it sometimes but mostly with people who can take a joke


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21 Mar 2015, 11:45 pm

Just to illustrate how much it can vary, this is a way I've had disagreements with my friend who also has Asperger's. He often wants to have conversations about the ridiculous behavior of people he doesn't like, and probably expects other people to also think this is hilarious. Even when I knew the people he was talking about, I thought it was excessive and boring to keep talking about people who we didn't like, but when I saw him again after a long time, he wanted to tell me about people I didn't even know. I've gotten rude about it before, but that's not useful and I guess it's just an area where we differ, so now I know that when that happens, I should just nod and zone out until the subject changes.

I sometimes describe unpleasant interactions I've had with people to criticize what happened, but I can't remember ever thinking that's funny enough to keep repeating it and laughing about it, or start an inside joke about it. When it comes to making fun of people, I'm more amused by 1. mistakes or misspeaks that my friends made and also thought they were funny afterwards, and 2. jokes about people who are famous in a subject that the person I'm talking to is also interested in.



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22 Mar 2015, 3:55 am

y-pod wrote:
I really think aspies who are introverted have an easier time when it comes to this. If you don't have the urge to speak you aren't likely to offend people.


You might be surprised...being introverted doesn't mean you don't have much of an urge to speak. I'm extremely introverted yet I have the urge to speak all the time, I'm just too afraid of criticism or confrontation to do so. (See my earlier response to Sweetleaf for an example...I used to speak up quite often until I learned the hard way not to.) Being introverted just means we get more exhausted by socializing and need alone time to reenergize. We can have pretty strong opinions, and we can be as chatty as the most extroverted person if the circumstances are right.

Put me with one person I feel close to and comfortable with, have them indicate they're interested in what I have to say, and I'd never shut up. :oops: It's not my introversion, but rather people's irritated reaction to my chattiness, that is the reason I'm so quiet today. -_-

And, even being as avoidant of conflict as I am, I still somehow manage to offend and anger people regularly. :( I once offended someone by merely saying I don't like to listen to books on tape. :| No lie.

(I'm afraid I'll offend with every post I make here, including this one. ;_; )



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22 Mar 2015, 8:24 am

ur all ugly


there I made fun of people.