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12 Oct 2009, 9:52 pm

My post was not appropriate in that I meant that I don't understand:
people winding people up.


It takes me quite some time to realise that these people are not really committed to what they are saying and are "playing mind games".


I don't know why they do this!


I do understand that NTs want some reply to a question... even if I think it is a pointless this to ask. I don't understand why they want to ask pointless questions.



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12 Oct 2009, 10:09 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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table manners.
yes, having all those specific forks is silly, but keeping your elbows off the table, and chewing with your mouth closed REALLY makes eating with you far more pleasant. :)


I can understand why it's polite to chew with one's mouth closed, but why is having elbows on the table offensive? On the table is a very comfortable position for one's elbows to be in.

Agreed. Leaving my elbows to hang in midair is uncomfortable. I don't know where to put them since they don't quite reach my lap.



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12 Oct 2009, 10:44 pm

Why my mum is always yelling at me. It's not abusive. I'm a very unworldly person, and I need that extra whatever you want to call it. I'm very childlike and a little slow at times.


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12 Oct 2009, 11:01 pm

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Humor / sarcasm. Sometimes it's easier than being serious. A lot of insecure people hide behind it though which annoys me.


I have quite a sharp sense of humour and when I blurt it out it OFTEN passes for ad-lib.

Of course it cant pass for ad-lib if I am blurting something 'inappropriate or mildly offensive'.

What I often DON'T get is humour from anyone else, especially sarcasm (which is a favorite humour mode of mine) :?

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13 Oct 2009, 3:45 am

marshall wrote:
Humor / sarcasm. Sometimes it's easier than being serious. A lot of insecure people hide behind it though which annoys me.


that would definitely explain my former best friend to a T........



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13 Oct 2009, 5:49 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Spazzergasm wrote:
table manners.
yes, having all those specific forks is silly, but keeping your elbows off the table, and chewing with your mouth closed REALLY makes eating with you far more pleasant. :)


I can understand why it's polite to chew with one's mouth closed, but why is having elbows on the table offensive? On the table is a very comfortable position for one's elbows to be in.


I suppose if the table isn't well fixed down, then it might bounce everything around when you move your elbows.....though the same thing could happen when people were cutting up their food, so maybe it's not that.

None of the answers I can find are particularly convincing:

If the table is crowded, elbows might take up precious space (personally I think it's rude to expect anybody to eat at a crowded table).

It's a matter of hygeine (are elbows really a significant health hazard?).

Monkeys have elbpws and we don't like to be reminded about the fact that we're closely related to monkeys (why would anybody worry about that?).

It's a matter of demonstrating that we're willing and able to eat formally (why is that good?).

(My favourite 8) ) It looks too comfortable - apparently if you'd fall over should the table be taken away, you're too comfy So it's a Good Thing to look uncomfortable? I've noticed this strange belief before.....one guy, in a book about how to effectively get things done, reckoned that too much comfort caused a lax attitude to productivity. Strange, because I generally find that the less comfortable I am, the less I get done, practically and socially.

So there seems to be no logical answer on this one. Personally I get round the whole problem by not having a dining table in the first place. :P



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13 Oct 2009, 7:07 am

Sorry---I just eliminated my post---I thought I was posting to the one on what we don't understand :oops: .


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13 Oct 2009, 9:06 am

ALCOHOL

This I really DO understand at a deeply emotional level.

I loved drinking underage as a teenager and not alone either!

I have heard alcohol described as anaesthetic and I would have to concur in my case.

I once read something written by an alcoholic 'in recovery' that:

'Although I was drinking EVERY day, I wasn't drinking All day'............self diagnosis test?

Problem with alcohol, like most things in life, I get bored and just stop, I guess I dont have the committment to be an alcoholic.

Drugs (other drugs I should say) were different.

Despite having quite an addictive personality I never got involved in hard drugs and never touched a needle. Completely out of character for an addictive mind as I am more than capable of drinking myself into oblivion.............if needed....


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13 Oct 2009, 9:20 am

I can see a LOT of things they do and understand them just fine once it is explained... I just can't apply it to myself in any way, shape, or form, therefore I keep this refusal to bother doing it, and it all remains "silly" to me, even though I understand it.


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13 Oct 2009, 9:23 am

anxiety25 wrote:
I can see a LOT of things they do and understand them just fine once it is explained... I just can't apply it to myself in any way, shape, or form, therefore I keep this refusal to bother doing it, and it all remains "silly" to me, even though I understand it.



How about having a drink or getting drunk?

That wasn't a social offer, just an enquiry about your habits :wink:



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13 Oct 2009, 9:30 am

Blindspot149 wrote:
anxiety25 wrote:
I can see a LOT of things they do and understand them just fine once it is explained... I just can't apply it to myself in any way, shape, or form, therefore I keep this refusal to bother doing it, and it all remains "silly" to me, even though I understand it.



How about having a drink or getting drunk?

That wasn't a social offer, just an enquiry about your habits :wink:


lol, I don't drink much at all or get drunk really. But I guess I kind of look at it as an "interest" so that it does make sense. Or I look at it as a "this is what you are supposed to do in a bar" type of thing.

It's a social thing... kind of like if I go into a painting class or a group for art, I would expect to be doing something with art. If I walk into a bar, I'm just kind of expecting people to be drinking because it is there, and that is just what people do in places like that. That is probably why I don't bother going, lol.

Also, I think that sometimes people drink just to feel more comfortable if they have anxiety around people or something like that... or just to "fit in". Just like people will go out and buy expensive clothes to avoid being the target of ridicule, the same thing happens with drinking. I used to hang out at college campuses at times because my boyfriend liked to go to the parties... and I was often singled out as "the one not drinking". Which brought ridicule, and nicknames, and everything you can think of... usually they said things based on me being a "goody goody" for not drinking. I don't see that as such a bad thing to be the "good" one, but I do see it as a bad thing to be pointed out for it constantly-or at least annoying enough for me to just want to hide... which was bad because that is what I was often trying to do anyway. I used to hang out out front and just sit there talking to no one, but people would go out of their way to come find me and try to talk to me, or try to talk me into drinking. I assume some NTs would go along with things just for this reason.

I don't really get it... personally I don't like the feeling of drinking, but I can't really argue with it either, because I like plenty of things that are seen as "odd" to others, lol, that they would never understand.


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13 Oct 2009, 9:37 am

anxiety25 wrote:

lol, I don't drink much at all or get drunk really. But I guess I kind of look at it as an "interest" so that it does make sense. Or I look at it as a "this is what you are supposed to do in a bar" type of thing.

It's a social thing...



Bar, social thing.....................Crikey :!: Get down to the store and pick up a fifth/bottle or Vodka/Jack and drink at home.

Why f**k up something enjoyable by going to a bar and or socialising :?:

Drinking at home rules and................no drink driving....................see, Aspies do care



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13 Oct 2009, 9:40 am

Blindspot149 wrote:
anxiety25 wrote:

lol, I don't drink much at all or get drunk really. But I guess I kind of look at it as an "interest" so that it does make sense. Or I look at it as a "this is what you are supposed to do in a bar" type of thing.

It's a social thing...



Bar, social thing.....................Crikey :!: Get down to the store and pick up a fifth/bottle or Vodka/Jack and drink at home.

Why f**k up something enjoyable by going to a bar and or socialising :?:

Drinking at home rules and................no drink driving....................see, Aspies do care


haha, I really didn't think of drinking at home to be honest, but even in those situations I've seen a lot of NTs just drink themselves to oblivion. If by themselves, I often assume it's a way of self-medicating or something. A way to forget and just not deal with things.

I suppose some people just enjoy it... kind of like I enjoy spinning in circles until I get dizzy.


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13 Oct 2009, 9:44 am

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Blindspot149 wrote:
anxiety25 wrote:

lol, I don't drink much at all or get drunk really. But I guess I kind of look at it as an "interest" so that it does make sense. Or I look at it as a "this is what you are supposed to do in a bar" type of thing.

It's a social thing...



Bar, social thing.....................Crikey :!: Get down to the store and pick up a fifth/bottle or Vodka/Jack and drink at home.

Why f**k up something enjoyable by going to a bar and or socialising :?:

Drinking at home rules and................no drink driving....................see, Aspies do care


haha, I really didn't think of drinking at home to be honest, but even in those situations I've seen a lot of NTs just drink themselves to oblivion. If by themselves, I often assume it's a way of self-medicating or something. A way to forget and just not deal with things.




:lol:

I suppose some people just enjoy it... kind of like I enjoy spinning in circles until I get dizzy.
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Trust me, with enough Finlandia or Jack Daniels (and a good movie............about Aspergers) you wont need a rocking chair or a swivel chair............


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13 Oct 2009, 10:50 am

marriage.


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13 Oct 2009, 11:29 am

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Name one NT thing you DO understand?


i do not think there is any such thing as an "nt" thing.

i see aspects of my world just like non autistic people do.

the world is there whether "nt"'s or any consciousness witnesses it or not.

i want a parking spot close to where i intend to shop just like an "nt" does.
i want to be able to be comfortable when i get tired the same as "nt"'s do.
i like to eat when i am hungry and i like to sleep when i am tired. i frown at what i do not like and i smile at what i do like.
all these things are the same as "nt"'s do.

i know up from down,
left from right,
in from out,
and dark from light.

all these things i have i common with "nt"'s.
i have a "plethora" of things in me that are not affected by my autism. as we all do.....

however, there are also many dissimilarities between me and people that are not affected by autism (and also with people that do have it it seems) , but this topic asks for one thing that i understand about a non autistic thought pattern. i understand many things.

being autistic does not mean you are so completely different than non autistic people that you share no commonality with them at all.

if i accidentally touch a red hot "hot plate" on the stove, i am sure there would be not much difference between my impression of it and an "nt"'s impression of it if they did the same thing as me.

autism is a mild or moderate or severe aberration of perception of other peoples contributions to what you are seeing, and not an example of uniqueness of all thought and being (i believe that is).

well i am finished talking because i am not really interested enough to agonize with many paragraphs.