NT-Bashing Foolishness: An Open Letter To The Abusers

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Yeah, I think NT bashing isn't the best thing to do on this forum. I mean, you can complain about neurotypicals all you want to, but at the end of the day, it only makes it the more obvious that YOU are different from everyone else and kills you even further inside.

Aye, Aye! I am also getting tired of their bashing. My mother and sister are NTs!

Given that we are in quite a small minority, it would seem like somewhat of a mild generalization (sarcasm) to think badly of ALL NTs.

George Bush's existence does not make ALL/most Americans ...........(fill in whatever you think of George Bush)

Anyone can be an a**h*le, regardless of their label.



I have read some postings on WP from those 'on the spectrum' that I find unpleasant.

I think the most offensive posts here (for me) are those that berate Aspies with the more severe social impairment; usually by those who claim to be able to get along more of less reasonably well with NTs

I think you make a good point but I suspect your comments apply to the minority on WP

That said, I am a very recent arrival at WP so I may be wrong.

But yes, let's build bridges instead of walls...............

I really like that story

Writer Spider Robinson once divided people into two basic groups - One Of The Nice Ones (OOTNOs), and Not One Of The Nice Ones (NOOTNOs). He said that the basis of conflict is the ongoing struggle between OOTNOs and NOOTNOs, and that those of us on the OOTNO side have two basic advantages - there are more of us, and when we try, we can cooperate (while the NOOTNO way of being is basically antithetical to cooperation).

The Stardance Trilogy can basically be seen as an extension of that struggle into the near future, and involving aliens who want to help us become more than we are. It's made quite blatant in the last novel, Starseed, when the NOOTNO organization begins moving openly against the Stardancers, while stumbling over its members' individual power plays...

Here in real life, I've found that OOTNOs and NOOTNOs can be found on either side of our neurological fence. My wife and cohusband are NTs - and quite definitely OOTNOs. And I'm sure we all know one or two people (not necessarily on WP, but I'm sure we've all met one or two) who are on the spectrum, but are still NOOTNOs. The trick is knowing which people are of which group, and not painting NTs with too broad a brush (or AS - we're not all saints, by any means! ).

I like this way of looking at people, I think it makes far more sense than many other divisions.

Yeah, nice and "black and white"; Rorschach style, that's the way to do it.

I understand not all NTs are bad, but those who are tend to go after the easiest target, which is frequently someone with AS. For some of us, such as me, most of my experiences with NTs have been horrible.

I find that 'bad people' always go after the easiest target, regardless of whether or not they are NT.

I had a miserable time at school, but the 'bullying' wasn't physical.

It could have been much worse.

Instead of just being 'strange' I could have had a differnt skin colour (I didn't), a different religion (I didn't) been from a different 'ethnic group' (I'm not) or......had a 'foreign' accent...

The fate of the people listed in the last sentence has been grotesque since history began and continues to this day.

I figure that for some/most of us, our worst day pales into insignificance compared to them and remember...............

statistically they would have been almost entirely NT

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I agree with Vipera but I didn't see all that bashing :/

I have to agree with you and especially the point "It makes you like them".

There's no "we" or "them", just us.

Let all human beings get along, we are all one in this cosmic universe = )

I came to know that kind of feeling as "typical" after learning many other people felt the same way. Being "typical", however, does not remove uniqueness. No two people on earth are identical in every way.

/signed

I totally agree with you!

I'm against NT-bashing, but I do not support people that think that NTs doesn't exist as a group. They clearly do, and human diversity is basically defined by the Aspie/neurodiversity-NT aspect, and not by skin color, race or personality.

Interesting opinion,

I agree that NT's are a group a rather large majority infact, to say the least and within that group there is the same diversity as exists with Aspies, colour, religion, race, etc.

So I dont see how I can subscribe to the idea that:

'human diversity is basically defined by the Aspie/neurodiversity-NT aspect, and not by skin color, race or personality', although I do of course agree that it is part of our human diversity spectrum.

I can't think of a single conflict in (modern) history that involved Aspies vs NT's

Given the natural distribution, obviously NT's will always be in the majority (in both/all sides of the conflict).

I dont think the Nazis were exterminating Jews, Russians, Christians, gays, gypsies, because their victims were Aspies (I am assuming the Nazis werent majority Aspies)

I dont think religious conflicts or any other conflicts are 'basically defined'/because of neurodiversity.

I think conflicts arise for lots of reasons but I have never heard of neurodiversity being given as one.

I must have misunderstood your comment (or projected it) as I have just re read my argument which seems to be stating something too obvious to justify a discussion

Well, I am an Aspie, taking things literally and not understanding nuance