vegetarian diet
I'm an omnivore.
I prefer meat, but eat other things on occasion.
Why do you feel that it's wrong to eat dairy products and honey? It's not like animals are killed for these products.
Another one: Would you also refuse to wear clothes made of wool?
They are killed, actually. Dairy cows are killed after they stop producing milk, and their male calves are killed for veal. In addition to that, in order to produce milk dairy cows are continuously forced to become pregnant and then their babies are taken away from them. This happens even with "happy cows". Bees also die when honey is collected, in addition to having their food taken away from them.
Vegans do not wear wool - sheep are often injured in the process of shearing, plus there's mulesing (a google search will bring up some rather graphic photos). In addition to that, we believe that it's wrong to use animals as objects.
Thank you for explaining that.
I hope you avoid pillows and blankets filled with down, as well. I once saw a documentary about poultry farms in eastern Europe where women grabbed the birds and ripped the feathers off the live animals and then released them. I have no idea how many times those birds were ”harvested” during their lives. It was barbaric.

Why do you feel that it's wrong to eat dairy products and honey? It's not like animals are killed for these products.
Another one: Would you also refuse to wear clothes made of wool?
They are killed, actually. Dairy cows are killed after they stop producing milk, and their male calves are killed for veal. In addition to that, in order to produce milk dairy cows are continuously forced to become pregnant and then their babies are taken away from them. This happens even with "happy cows". Bees also die when honey is collected, in addition to having their food taken away from them.
Vegans do not wear wool - sheep are often injured in the process of shearing, plus there's mulesing (a google search will bring up some rather graphic photos). In addition to that, we believe that it's wrong to use animals as objects.
Thank you for explaining that.
I hope you avoid pillows and blankets filled with down, as well. I once saw a documentary about poultry farms in eastern Europe where women grabbed the birds and ripped the feathers off the live animals and then released them. I have no idea how many times those birds were ”harvested” during their lives. It was barbaric.

I do avoid down.
I hope you avoid pillows and blankets filled with down, as well. I once saw a documentary about poultry farms in eastern Europe where women grabbed the birds and ripped the feathers off the live animals and then released them. I have no idea how many times those birds were ”harvested” during their lives. It was barbaric.

That sounds horrible! Being extremely passionate for animals, I am usually up to date on animal cruelty practices. This one I have never heard of, though...and I find it shocking! Poor birds.

With that being said, I voted lacto-ovo vegetarian because technically that is what I am, although I try to eat vegan whenever possible and when circumstances allow it.
I do like my cheese though!
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I hope you avoid pillows and blankets filled with down, as well. I once saw a documentary about poultry farms in eastern Europe where women grabbed the birds and ripped the feathers off the live animals and then released them. I have no idea how many times those birds were ”harvested” during their lives. It was barbaric.

That sounds horrible! Being extremely passionate for animals, I am usually up to date on animal cruelty practices. This one I have never heard of, though...and I find it shocking! Poor birds.

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=121
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-solom ... 94833.html
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If it were left up to me, the current way we farm (especially in America) would be more sustainable, more organic and more ethical. I am a meat eater (we are animals, and animals eat meat), and I feel that livestock should play the same role in sustainable agriculture that it has traditionally: providing fertilizer for crops, pest control (especially chickens), making use of marginal land not suitable for planting of crops, and adding necessary protein/vitamins to the human diet. However, I do feel that we should go to a more traditional way of eating meat (once a day, or even just a couple of times a week), because everyone eating meat all day every day is probably not sustainable without factory farming. But I do love a good steak.
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