just when you think you have things figured out...
I'm with those who are very literal thinkers. I have one small group of people who usually understand this and don't mind me asking for clarification. I've tried to hang out with other groups of people where sometimes they are sarcastic and joking around and just when I think I have the group dynamics figured out I'll say something in a joking or sarcastic manner and find out they were not joking around. So with most groups I'm totally silent.
Spokane_Girl wrote:
dustintorch wrote:
Wayne wrote:
There are different levels of friendship. At one level, you enjoy spending time together when it's convenient but not want to live together. At another level, you might live together, but if one of you moves the other will find another roommate. At still another level, one might follow the other. And so on.
As you've noticed, it's really hard to tell which level the other person considers you to be at.
As you've noticed, it's really hard to tell which level the other person considers you to be at.
I think that's the problem...I can never tell when a person is a good friend or just a regular friend or an aquaintance. It's so hard to figure it out and I can analyze the crap out of it with little to no results.
Acquaintances are people you just talk to. Talking to people at work or in school are acquaintances, not friends.
dustintorch wrote:
YOU DON'T! I've been talking a lot about how my social skills have improved and I feel I don't have much trouble with them anymore...today I was talking with someone who I thought was becoming a close friend. I said, "I would move to Houston if we could be roomates..." He gave me a terrible look and said he could never live with me. He said he would kill me. I never knew he found me to be so annoying. I had no clue whatsoever and now I don't even want to talk to him or anyone anymore. I can feel a shutdown coming on. Not to just make this a negative whiny post about myself, but it's true. Anybody else have something similar happen?
it sounds like a really rude thing to say to someone. I have noticed that since childhood I have a habit of attracting really blunt people into my life who, when I look back realistically, their behavior could fall into the definition of mistreatment. My problem was that I thought 'well, it's the truth or why would they say it'. Because I felt that I was that way (truthful). It's a real gray area for me. I have noticed a couple other posts on here where people were being mistreated (abused I would say) and both times they were asking for reasons why the people did it. Trying to use logic to understand the behavior. I think this is something that maybe NT people have a better time with, they might innately understand when someone is being a jerk and not try to apply reason to the behavior. You can always ask him what was behind it and tell him it was really hurtful to you to hear that.
alana wrote:
dustintorch wrote:
YOU DON'T! I've been talking a lot about how my social skills have improved and I feel I don't have much trouble with them anymore...today I was talking with someone who I thought was becoming a close friend. I said, "I would move to Houston if we could be roomates..." He gave me a terrible look and said he could never live with me. He said he would kill me. I never knew he found me to be so annoying. I had no clue whatsoever and now I don't even want to talk to him or anyone anymore. I can feel a shutdown coming on. Not to just make this a negative whiny post about myself, but it's true. Anybody else have something similar happen?
it sounds like a really rude thing to say to someone. I have noticed that since childhood I have a habit of attracting really blunt people into my life who, when I look back realistically, their behavior could fall into the definition of mistreatment. My problem was that I thought 'well, it's the truth or why would they say it'. Because I felt that I was that way (truthful). It's a real gray area for me. I have noticed a couple other posts on here where people were being mistreated (abused I would say) and both times they were asking for reasons why the people did it. Trying to use logic to understand the behavior. I think this is something that maybe NT people have a better time with, they might innately understand when someone is being a jerk and not try to apply reason to the behavior. You can always ask him what was behind it and tell him it was really hurtful to you to hear that.
Actually I asked him if he hated me and he said no. Later he texted me and said for me not to take it personally, he just doesn't like to rush into roommate situations due to bad experiences. I said "Don't worry about it. I'm just terrible at reading people. I wasn't even really serious about it. I was just caught off guard by how much you were against it." He has seemed fine with me since then and I think he's completely forgotten about it. I've decided to give him a break from me though so I don't annoy him.
DarrylZero wrote:
Thanks. For the most part I considered it a compliment. I guess what bothered me was that my efforts to be social didn't appear to be working. Oh, well... 

I guess that depends on how you define "working." If people think that you're kinda quirky and weird, and they like you, then aren't your efforts working? Unless your goal was to morph into a totally different person and be totally "normal" and "average" and whatnot, I don't see how it's "not working" just because they can tell that you're using intellect to make up for a lack of social skills. Most people worth knowing consider "normal" an insult.
Maggiedoll wrote:
DarrylZero wrote:
Thanks. For the most part I considered it a compliment. I guess what bothered me was that my efforts to be social didn't appear to be working. Oh, well... 

I guess that depends on how you define "working." If people think that you're kinda quirky and weird, and they like you, then aren't your efforts working? Unless your goal was to morph into a totally different person and be totally "normal" and "average" and whatnot, I don't see how it's "not working" just because they can tell that you're using intellect to make up for a lack of social skills. Most people worth knowing consider "normal" an insult.
I hadn't quite thought of it that way. Thanks.
