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Have you adapted quickly to the linguistic and technological changes brought about by the internet, both when it started and as it developed and keeps developing to the present day?
Yes 36%  36%  [ 14 ]
No 31%  31%  [ 12 ]
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02 Feb 2010, 2:14 pm

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I agree it contributes to illiteracy, its sickeningly annoying and IMHO most of it is quite childish - but, as in the usage in this sentence, some of it can be quite handy in abbreviating thoughts for quicker transmission.


Oh, yeah, I don't mind abbreviations when they're used tastefully. I use BRB and the like all the time.

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Evidence?


I don't know how much of it is the Internet's fault, and how much of the blame is to be put on teachers, but it's doing a pretty good job of escaping its confides of the Net and branching out into Real Life :cry:


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02 Feb 2010, 2:27 pm

I can't stand netspeak. It's only used because people are lazy and don't want to take the time to spell out the actual word. Even worse, some people actualy speak in netspeak in real life conversations! Not as bad as the little girl in a phone comercial but it's getting there. No wonder the youth is becoming so illerate these days! Plus it's just plain lazyness. I swear, it is like most people have this fear of using long words. I had to stop watching CSI because it drove me crazy that they would say "decomp" instead of "decompisition". I was using words like restitution in proper context at five years old.


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02 Feb 2010, 2:42 pm

I'd also like to point out that "netspeak" isn't the same as "text-speak." (The latter being what people do on mobile phones, which is horribly annoying when people with full-sized keyboards do it.) A majority of the purpose of netspeak is simply to not say the same thing over and over again. (Um, yea.. I know that I repeat myself anyway.. :oops: but I say it differently every time!)
I just learned a new one! "NAYY" It confused the heck out of me for awhile, but it stands for "not affiliated, yadda yadda" You say it when you've just recommended something, and what to express the whole concept that you don't work for/profit from whatever it is that you've recommended, and that you don't speak for them either. It doesn't replace a few words, it replaces an entire concept/disclaimer for whenever you want to tell somebody that you're not advertising for or guaranteeing anything about the thing you've recommended, but only that you like it, and clarifies that you're just speaking from your experience, not from a sales pitch or insider information. (And it kinda makes fun of itself with the "yadda yadda" part, which I like too..) I would start using it, but I'm not sure if other people know what it means. :lol:



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02 Feb 2010, 3:08 pm

I really like Internet abbreviations. I think they're fun to figure out. I get excited when I learn the meaning of an abbreviation I can't figure out on my own. One of these was "ftw." I had to ask what that meant, and now that I know, I use it myself. I greatly dislike how most people don't use proper grammar/spelling/punctuation on the Internet, but I like how the cryptic abbreviations sort of bond those who are on the Internet a lot, since we're the only ones who use them frequently. On a sort of unrelated train of thought, I never understood XD. I don't get why the eyes are in an "X" shape, like dead fish eyes in a cartoon. :lol:
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02 Feb 2010, 9:44 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
Willard wrote:
I agree it contributes to illiteracy, its sickeningly annoying and IMHO most of it is quite childish - but, as in the usage in this sentence, some of it can be quite handy in abbreviating thoughts for quicker transmission.


Oh, yeah, I don't mind abbreviations when they're used tastefully. I use BRB and the like all the time.

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Evidence?


I don't know how much of it is the Internet's fault, and how much of the blame is to be put on teachers, but it's doing a pretty good job of escaping its confides of the Net and branching out into Real Life :cry:


How is that evidence of illiteracy? Having the ability to use Netspeak does not mean that one will lack the ability to use standard English.


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03 Feb 2010, 12:14 am

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I get really sick of words like "epic", "fail" or "owned."

I like "fail." It usually accompanies a picture that makes me laugh.

I turned against those type of pictures since I was a de-motivate picture with an autistic child.

I also just hate the way everyone talks like that now. It's like they have no life outside the internet. I'm talking about my 20-something peers and don't mean to offend.


they did that! Do you have a link? that is awful :cry:



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03 Feb 2010, 12:49 am

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pensieve wrote:
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I get really sick of words like "epic", "fail" or "owned."

I like "fail." It usually accompanies a picture that makes me laugh.

I turned against those type of pictures since I was a de-motivate picture with an autistic child.

I also just hate the way everyone talks like that now. It's like they have no life outside the internet. I'm talking about my 20-something peers and don't mean to offend.


they did that! Do you have a link? that is awful :cry:


Here: http://photos.streetfire.net/photo/_1421360.htm

It's horrible. If I ever meet someone with this type of humor I'll do unspeakable things to them.


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03 Feb 2010, 1:06 am

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I get really sick of words like "epic", "fail" or "owned."

I like "fail." It usually accompanies a picture that makes me laugh.

I turned against those type of pictures since I was a de-motivate picture with an autistic child.

I also just hate the way everyone talks like that now. It's like they have no life outside the internet. I'm talking about my 20-something peers and don't mean to offend.


they did that! Do you have a link? that is awful :cry:


Here: http://photos.streetfire.net/photo/_1421360.htm

It's horrible. If I ever meet someone with this type of humor I'll do unspeakable things to them.


What sick person made this? :evil: :x I agree with you. wwe should find the picture and rewrite it maybe something like

"Autism, Because being in your own wordl can be better then everyone elses," or soething like that.

"autism it isn't as bad as autism speaks wants you to think,"



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03 Feb 2010, 2:06 pm

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How is that evidence of illiteracy? Having the ability to use Netspeak does not mean that one will lack the ability to use standard English.


Let me clarify: kids are using it in their English papers.


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03 Feb 2010, 4:54 pm

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I get excited when I learn the meaning of an abbreviation I can't figure out on my own. One of these was "ftw."

I had that down as "**** the world" for a while; I never would've guessed the "real" meaning as it ain't exactly grammatickal. :wink:

The first time I encountered "lol" in computing terms, it stood for "little old lady." :) (Bob Redrup, I think. RIP.)

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"fail"


That one annoys me. When I see it used I usually don't find the context interesting or funny. :?

I find the evolution of language absolutely fascinating. Does anyone have any good links to proper research on the effect of the internet?


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03 Feb 2010, 5:05 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
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How is that evidence of illiteracy? Having the ability to use Netspeak does not mean that one will lack the ability to use standard English.


Let me clarify: kids are using it in their English papers.


Oh definitely, definitely. Not only kids, but also young adults and adults in my college classes. Even in e-mails from my teachers. It's just because some people don't know when it's "netspeak" and when it's a real spelling of a word, such as using "wut," in place of "what." Perhaps the real contribution to illiteracy is our own English education -- and now dictionaries!

By the way, I am almost positive that all of you Netspeak-haters would despise purepwnage.com. It's pronounced, "pure ownage."



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03 Feb 2010, 9:55 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
How is that evidence of illiteracy? Having the ability to use Netspeak does not mean that one will lack the ability to use standard English.


Let me clarify: kids are using it in their English papers.


I've heard of one reported case of that. Anyway, it still doesn't necessarily mean illiteracy: it could just be a lack of awareness of the appropriate context.


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04 Feb 2010, 1:04 pm

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The first time I encountered "lol" in computing terms, it stood for "little old lady." :) (Bob Redrup, I think. RIP.)


My friend had a book from one of his college classes that said it stood for "laughing online", which I find much more appropriate, since most people don't actually laugh out loud when they type "lol".


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04 Feb 2010, 1:33 pm

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I get really sick of words like "epic", "fail" or "owned."

I like "fail." It usually accompanies a picture that makes me laugh.

I turned against those type of pictures since I was a de-motivate picture with an autistic child.

There are bad and offensive jokes of almost any type.. they reflect on the a**holes that make them up, not on the entire class of jokes. Somebody could tell an offensive knock-knock joke, but that wouldn't make ALL knock-knock jokes offensive.



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04 Feb 2010, 6:58 pm

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ASdogGeek wrote:
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Maggiedoll wrote:
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I get really sick of words like "epic", "fail" or "owned."

I like "fail." It usually accompanies a picture that makes me laugh.

I turned against those type of pictures since I was a de-motivate picture with an autistic child.

I also just hate the way everyone talks like that now. It's like they have no life outside the internet. I'm talking about my 20-something peers and don't mean to offend.


they did that! Do you have a link? that is awful :cry:


Here: http://photos.streetfire.net/photo/_1421360.htm

It's horrible. If I ever meet someone with this type of humor I'll do unspeakable things to them.


Let me help. :evil:


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OddDuckNash99 wrote:
I really like Internet abbreviations. I think they're fun to figure out. I get excited when I learn the meaning of an abbreviation I can't figure out on my own. One of these was "ftw." I had to ask what that meant, and now that I know, I use it myself. I greatly dislike how most people don't use proper grammar/spelling/punctuation on the Internet, but I like how the cryptic abbreviations sort of bond those who are on the Internet a lot, since we're the only ones who use them frequently. On a sort of unrelated train of thought, I never understood XD. I don't get why the eyes are in an "X" shape, like dead fish eyes in a cartoon. :lol:
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I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but XD always reminded me of how anime characters close their eyes when they're happy.