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04 Feb 2010, 6:34 am

I have both.


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04 Feb 2010, 7:13 am

Anyway... Could anyone tell me what are the main things that characterise their aspergers? Could somebody explain what the symptoms mean? Coming from the horses mouth, how are they experienced? I realise everyone is different, but what are the defining characteristics?



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04 Feb 2010, 8:26 am

Well I can tell you what it means for me in my life. Acting quite a lot younger for your age (but when feeling good, when focused outwards, acting a lot older and 20 years wiser like one of my ex-gf noticed), lots and lots of depression (since I was 12), real philosophing since I was 6, thinking a LOT all the time even while I'm asleep, it just doesn't want to stop, lack of friends, being in your own world, getting psychotic from time to time (hearing all kind of things) but not too often, wanting to go away from your parents home because you're an adult but you can't be on your own feet (tried it many times), fatigue, sleep disorder, impulsive behaviour, obsessions, sadness (of being alone and hurted in the past), trying to get protected by your girlfriends since they seem to replace your mom, a huge amount of self-awareness (knowing too much about yourself)... wow, my life really sucks :) :( :(

hmm, i forgot, getting more and more lonely because you lose more and more friends because you stay depressed. I'm now fearing of losing my last three real friends that stick till now, I'm trying everything to keep them, I'm very close to pathetic. O, one more thing, even while being shot for photomodel pics, I don't have self-esteem whatsoever. And even when life is really really good, when everyone would wake up because the present is good (I had a beautiful, beautiful tv-presenter girl for 2 years when I was in romania, 'all' my friends where jealouse) and met the most famous ppl like Francis Ford Coppola who called me crazy after he spent three hours with me, I still couldn't live in the present for more then two weeks.
The friends of my ex-gf called me spoiled because I didn't live in the present while being with such a beautiful and nice girl. Also, they called me lazy.
Psychologists thought I'm in a shock-state till I was diagnosed with AS.

Ah, one more thing, feeling like I'm in a constant f*cking dream which is awful, I feel like I'm an observer of my body and the world. Perhaps I see the world as too real and am scared of it (the impulses, and shut down), but I doubt it.


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04 Feb 2010, 8:31 am

johanstruijk82 wrote:
Well I can tell you what it means for me in my life. Acting quite a lot younger for your age (but when feeling good, when focused outwards, acting a lot older and 20 years wiser like one of my ex-gf noticed), lots and lots of depression (since I was 12), real philosophing since I was 6, thinking a LOT all the time even while I'm asleep, it just doesn't want to stop, lack of friends, being in your own world, getting psychotic from time to time (hearing all kind of things) but not too often, wanting to go away from your parents home because you're an adult but you can't be on your own feet (tried it many times), fatigue, sleep disorder, impulsive behaviour, obsessions, sadness (of being alone and hurted in the past), trying to get protected by your girlfriends since they seem to replace your mom, a huge amount of self-awareness (knowing too much about yourself)... wow, my life really sucks :) :( :(


I can relate a hell of a lot to all of that...



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04 Feb 2010, 9:08 am

ah, a few more things, knowing another language that well at a young age that people are questioning where you have learned that. Although later on you think so damn much your head hurts and ppl think (and say) you're a ret*d while you have a stupid high IQ.
More, a friend f.e. just called me to invite me and because you are too afraid of going out of the house -because you know you look and feel like a zombie which can't socialize- you have to cancel it and become more and more afraid of ending up totally alone on this planet (which might even be a good thing since you feel more like doing things alone anyway).

ah, and acting younger but people call you "oldie" and ppl say f.e. "there is a time to be sad and a time to be happy" while you are unhappy your whole life.

All I know of for sure is that aspies need a strict day schedule to feel more safe to get a bit grounded. Also if you know what you like to do for fun DO IT because it might get you out of depression.

One thing I also have, but I think this is not common for aspies is that I feel cold a lot around my body, my breath is cold, sometimes I feel a cold wind around me or something. I'm not sure if this has to do with AS, but it might, since you are more aware (too much) of your own body (self-centered).


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04 Feb 2010, 10:29 am

TPE2 wrote:
Even about Arroyo wrote:

Probably, both Asperger and ADHD will be largely reformulated in the next DSM - Asperger merged with Autism and Inattentive ADHD (or a sub-type) splitted to create an independent condition (Sluggish Cognitive Tempo).

I have the suspiction that, after the merge of ASD and the split of ADHD, some "mild" people who today will be diagnosed with AS (because they are more similiar to "typical AS" that to "typical ADHD"), will be diagnosed with SCT instead of with autism (because they will be more similar to "typical SCT" than to "typical Autism").


What is SCT?



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04 Feb 2010, 7:58 pm

mpw123 wrote:
Anyway... Could anyone tell me what are the main things that characterise their aspergers? Could somebody explain what the symptoms mean? Coming from the horses mouth, how are they experienced? I realise everyone is different, but what are the defining characteristics?

For me I'm talking more like I'm reading an instruction manual than communicating feelings and whatnot with people.
Need a routine to get things done. I pretty do the same thing everyday: get up at 9am, eat the same thing (toast with coffee), brush teeth, make bed, sometimes shower (hey we are in a drought) and then I'll browse the internet until lunch, which is always at 12pm. Then I'll read, get sick of that. Wander around, watch TV, go back to internet. Try to write to avoid the 2pm-4pm boredom blues. Feed the cats at 5pm, watch the 5pm news, have dinner at 6pm (if I don't eat at these certain times my stomach will start to hurt, even at my usual snack times). Watch the same shows until 7:30. Usually end up watching Law & Order at night.
I hate change like I have said before. Any change in routine makes me antsy. Going to a location that I've never been to or don't usually go to makes me anxious. I can't even change my daily walking route without panicking.
There's also anxiety about getting a job and moving out because it's something new to me.

A social boredom rather than social anxiety. I will try to socialise, then realise these people are talking utter crap and I could be at home learning about astronomy and other things.
I have a very pedantic way of talking and usually pick up english accents and talk like that without realising it. I HATE AUSSIE SLANG WITH A PASSION!
I'm oversensitive and literal thinking. I have to stop myself for trying to correct people when they are joking, and I've got to remember not to get offended. Although that never happens.

Poor motor skills; can't ride a bike or use chop sticks to save myself, messy handwriting, takes about 5 minutes to take out money from my purse and put change back in.

I can't remember signs but I can know where I am by using landmarks.

Sensory issues: can't bare walking around barefoot, when things get stuck to my feet it's the most icky feeling ever. Sensitivity to light - pretty severe. I meltdown over strobe lights etc. Sensitivity to taste so I can't have too much flavour in my food or drinks. I have a lot of food allergies, like carbonated water and vitamin C. I have half my daily intake if I can even tolerate that. Sensitive to sound too; last night I couldn't sleep because the TV volume was low but still on, there was a thunder storm and my mum was walking around and talking to the kitten.

I don't make eye contact. 1)It makes me feel nervous, like the person I'm looking at is mad at me and 2)Can't make sense of what they're saying when I look at them and I can't explain things properly while making eye contact.

I can't express myself very well too. I can't yell terribly loud or get excited when others do, but I can get overexcited over little things.

Was never academically smart did pick up art skills fairly early in life. My mum once didn't know whether to yell or praise me for etching a tree on my wardrobe with a knife.


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05 Feb 2010, 3:19 am

Yep, same goes for me, except that I tried a lot of traveling a moving while having a burnout (because i didn't know yet that I had AS), which caused an even bigger burnout, I'm now stuck at my parents home to recover a bit, i make their life hell and i feel really guilty because of that. I'm very rude to them, even while I don't want to, but since my dad most-likely has very mild AS I'm annoyed by him and dislike him because he looks a lot on me. I'm now stuck to a daily routine, I have every hour planned out, and doing every day exactly the same thing.


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05 Feb 2010, 5:33 am

pensieve wrote:
Need a routine to get things done. I pretty do the same thing everyday: get up at 9am, eat the same thing (toast with coffee), brush teeth, make bed, sometimes shower (hey we are in a drought) and then I'll browse the internet until lunch, which is always at 12pm. Then I'll read, get sick of that. Wander around, watch TV, go back to internet. Try to write to avoid the 2pm-4pm boredom blues. Feed the cats at 5pm, watch the 5pm news, have dinner at 6pm (if I don't eat at these certain times my stomach will start to hurt, even at my usual snack times). Watch the same shows until 7:30. Usually end up watching Law & Order at night.
I hate change like I have said before. Any change in routine makes me antsy. Going to a location that I've never been to or don't usually go to makes me anxious. I can't even change my daily walking route without panicking.


Amazing!! !! I have nothing of this, quite the opposite!! !! I love new experiences and I hate routine, although I like structured processes, and I follow them always the same way. I always need to feel mentally challenged to keep motivated.
I am really not the 'typical' Asperger.

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Sensory issues: can't bare walking around barefoot, when things get stuck to my feet it's the most icky feeling ever. Sensitivity to light - pretty severe. I meltdown over strobe lights etc. Sensitivity to taste so I can't have too much flavour in my food or drinks. I have a lot of food allergies, like carbonated water and vitamin C. I have half my daily intake if I can even tolerate that. Sensitive to sound too; last night I couldn't sleep because the TV volume was low but still on, there was a thunder storm and my mum was walking around and talking to the kitten.

I don't make eye contact. 1)It makes me feel nervous, like the person I'm looking at is mad at me and 2)Can't make sense of what they're saying when I look at them and I can't explain things properly while making eye contact.


Oh, ok, now I have all this, (except allergies), with less intensity. Maybe 50%?

Still, mild ASD is where I best fit. But also between ADHD-I, OCD and Atypical Depression. And although ADHD-I, definitelly NOT SCT!! ! (I think my sister fits perfectly in SCT!! !)

So, I still can't find myself on what I know about the new DSM-V. Any help?? :)