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Blindspot149
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08 Feb 2010, 12:21 am

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My question is: have you in some way or another come to terms with your autism and embraced your own spirit, and then realized you might just have progressed your own Asperger's and had people disconnect from you (even more)?

I am VERY curious as to what you guys have to share about this!

I was wondering when I would see something like this.

It is cool to meet someone who dwarfs my IQ (assuming you are using the American scale and NOT the Mensa scale), which is ONLY just inside the 98th percentile at a very humble 131 (149 on the Mensa scale).

I am getting to know myself better since discovering my AS.

I have been fortunate to have had a very rich intellectual and physical (sports) life, so that being a loner was never something that bothered me (after leaving school at least)

I am an obsessive reader (and collector of books) when I develop an interest in a subject.

This applies to 'Spiritual Growth', the science of business and creativity and interpersonal communication.

My studies on interpersonal communication have resulted in my social impairment being more domain specific now, in that I can focus, listen and function very well in business situations.

It is simply too exhausting to do this outside of business AND my family.


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08 Feb 2010, 4:00 am

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Our society looks down on intellectualism. Partly this is because of the (justified) stereotype of intellectualism as making a person an elitist twit. It is also because of American society's religiousness, in the minds of Evangelicals intellectuals are agents of Satan and "Godless Communism". if you don't have "practical" skills you are insulted, demeaned, and called a lazy slacker with no work ethic. If you disdain conventional conceptions of success you are labeled a hippie or a communist.


our society also looks down on those who are different; communication is most important to them, cause they seem to fall short with everything else.

I learned to stop caring what others think of me cause--in fairness--it's usually never anything good.

I will, in many cases, even start making what sounds like self-deprecating humor & observations, but for those who know me well enough, it's more of me being realistic of how I'm viewed by others.

For instance, I work in an indoor water park/resort hotel, and we have cheerleader conventions almost every single weekend.

I was talking to someone in the cash office today, who told me they're usually very nice to her. I said "they're not to me; but hey, take a look...it's pretty obvious why".

To most, that would sound like I'm putting myself down. But I'm not: the reality is, I'm their perfect target: I'm an Autistic guy who looks like a stereotypical nerd, has a nasal voice, and hunched back. Am I honestly expected to be treated by them like I'm freakin' Brad Pitt? Hardly.

They're extremely superficial, and they're looking for someone to knock, to feel better about themselves. Like I said...I'm a really, really easy target.

Again, though I've just stopped caring what others think. I don't necessarily talk length with people about my special interests, but if I bring it up, I know where that's headed socially, so I know what to expect.

Instead, I do a lot of research on history, economics, and other things, and every day I become more and more intimidating because my knowledge is growing, and they're able to relate to me less and less.....but now it's because I'm not even close to their level of intelligence anymore. :D



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08 Feb 2010, 5:38 am

To the OP.......

Congrats to you dear person for embracing your true nature........learn and learn and learn......all you can.

I also read and read. I have books all through my bed which my partner carefully removes before going to sleep.

I can latch on to anything I find fascinating.......aliens, quantum physics, horticulture, cooking, anthropology, psychology, theology, black holes, spacetime, reptiles, evolution, ant colonies, primates, crystals, paganism, the occult, voodoo, vampires, paranormal and the list goes on.

And so what if I am eccentric? I would rather be eccentric than totally boring and talk about what new SUV someone bought....

Take care.........I hear what you are saying.

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08 Feb 2010, 6:00 am

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To the OP.......

I also read and read.

I can latch on to anything I find fascinating.......aliens, quantum physics, horticulture, cooking, anthropology, psychology, theology, black holes, spacetime, reptiles, evolution, ant colonies, primates, crystals, paganism, the occult, voodoo, vampires, paranormal and the list goes on.

Take care.........I hear what you are saying. Mics


Is there a forum here for information junkies and book collectors :?: :D


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09 Feb 2010, 2:48 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It is a serious descrepancy that hinders me in every aspect of my life.


ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Our society looks down on intellectualism.


I think both these statements are very much in tune with how I see it. It's quite difficult to realize that 1) not everybody may think or know that you have certain capabilities that are not as common as others, and 2) that, even if they do believe it, people might even try to get you to say something 'stupid', which was sometimes the case with me in high school.

It took my quite a bit of time to even tell my friends and family that, instead of being crazy and diagnosed with ADD, I probably had Asperger's and gifted in certain areas. And because some of them didn't believe me, I kind of made it my life goal to let the world know how Einstein I really was. Luckily, I've completely stepped down from that, and I no longer care how others feel about it. I know it, and the only thing I can really do with it, is put it to good use by doing research, reading etc.

And hey, if people don't believe you're intelligent, let them. It's probably not like the world 'gets' us anyway, right?



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09 Feb 2010, 4:07 am

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By the way wikipedia is evil, whenever I look something up I invariably follow some links and end up spending our just reading. A couple days ago I went from looking up an anime to reading about the peer system in England :?


Indeed it is.


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09 Feb 2010, 4:56 am

I only work a little part time job as kind of a hobby to get me out of my apartment so I won't be a total hermit. The rest of my day, I spend reading/writing/researching. Because of this, I have this amazing wealth of knowledge where someone will be talking and they'll stop and I'll just continue. Like, they won't know where to continue with their idea because they'll have run out of information, but since I've researched it...

That's how I answer that annoying "What do you do?" question. I don't actually get paid (don't need the money), but I am a researcher. That's how my boyfriend introduces me to people. "This is Lizzie. She's a genius."

I own a few thousand books, am always collecting more, and one of my favorite diversions is going to wikipedia and spending a few hours just hitting "Random page" Some days its like I don't even need to eat or sleep just because I'm so nourished by knowledge.



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10 Feb 2010, 1:13 am

Neves - go for it. I have been researching one thing or another [sometimes rour or five things or another all my life, no intention of stopping. Academia is an uphill battle for anybody who wants to learn, research, explore, know unless you are a conniving jerk, but I managed it a long time before cutting out voluntarily.

No, nobody [who counts in the politics] will understand or approve.But you find the few who do. You find ways to do what you HAVE to do.

I would not wish academia on my worst enemy - but if that is where the bluebird is singing go there.



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10 Feb 2010, 1:17 am

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I only work a little part time job as kind of a hobby to get me out of my apartment so I won't be a total hermit. The rest of my day, I spend reading/writing/researching. Because of this, I have this amazing wealth of knowledge where someone will be talking and they'll stop and I'll just continue. Like, they won't know where to continue with their idea because they'll have run out of information, but since I've researched it...

That's how I answer that annoying "What do you do?" question. I don't actually get paid (don't need the money), but I am a researcher. That's how my boyfriend introduces me to people. "This is Lizzie. She's a genius."

I own a few thousand books, am always collecting more, and one of my favorite diversions is going to wikipedia and spending a few hours just hitting "Random page" Some days its like I don't even need to eat or sleep just because I'm so nourished by knowledge.


Oh, this is absolutely great! This is what I was talking about. Though I do need to use it for something since I'm in university (are you, by the way? Or do you just like to randomly learn things, because I love that), but still... The more the better.

My ex boyfriend used to do that too when introducing me to people, but usually the reaction would be a little awkward. Like when you go "Hi, I'm Devon and I'm gay" and people go "Uhhhmm.. Yes?". It's fun to know a lot of random stuff, though.
I kind of have this prepared answer to when people's responses are awkward. Because there's no way I can actually prove it (I don't want to be interrogated during a birthday), I mostly take the humorous way out.
"Why are you a genius?"
"Because I want to know everything."
"And why's that? Don't you have, like, a life?"
"Yes, but my biggest life goal is to be someone's life line on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire."

And after that it's pretty much smooth sailing. :D

Oh and, I LOVE Wikipedia for useless things. With a verifying or falsifying second opinion from a decent source, naturally.



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10 Feb 2010, 1:31 am

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That's how my boyfriend introduces me to people. "This is Lizzie. She's a genius."

That's great :!: I don't meet too many guys who say complimentary things about their partner.

I tend to go overboard about my wife, cos she is SO good with (and to) people. Socially she is pretty much everything I am not.

My wife can really 'light up a room' (I don't mean that she turns on the lights if it is dark :) )

Some people are noticably uncomfortable when I start 'waxing lyrically' about my wife and a few have even asked me to stop my serenades :!:

I'm really happy for you. :D


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10 Feb 2010, 4:16 pm

I was in university, but I'm out now. It was sucking up too much of my time and holding me back. I hated that I kept relearning stuff I already knew. I don't need a scrap of paper (with its associated costs) to prove I'm smart.



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10 Feb 2010, 8:52 pm

I've also been quite obsessed with knowledge and intelligence.

The motto of Theosophy is "There is no religion higher than truth." I'm never satisfied with any reported "facts" until I make my own investigations, and this path has led me to researchers such as Michael Tsarion, Alex Jones, Jim Marrs, David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, and Peter Joseph.


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10 Feb 2010, 9:20 pm

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Michhsta wrote:
To the OP.......

I also read and read.

I can latch on to anything I find fascinating.......aliens, quantum physics, horticulture, cooking, anthropology, psychology, theology, black holes, spacetime, reptiles, evolution, ant colonies, primates, crystals, paganism, the occult, voodoo, vampires, paranormal and the list goes on.

Take care.........I hear what you are saying. Mics


Is there a forum here for information junkies and book collectors :?: :D


No! But I wish :)

Mics


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