Even tolerant liberals can be Neurotypicalist bigots.

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01 Mar 2010, 4:00 pm

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What I can never understand is why the point of view of the person with autism was never given.
Reminds me of that one Autism Speaks short; "I am autism".
But I cannot see it from the parents' point of view because I am not a parent and the parent is not autistic and I am and I am not interested in non-autistic people.
Apparently, nobody cares what the child thinks.

I like what one person said on a message board once:
"If you can't accept what comes out of your vagina, stop putting things in it."



I can see it from their point of view. They are just needy people who want to be hugged and touched by their child. I don't need that stuff. That's why it pissed me off.

I don't understand that human nature of needing that stuff. It be heaven for me if my child didn't need that stuff. We both be happy and my job be less work.



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02 Mar 2010, 3:28 am

I come across many that are more intolerant than any conservative person I know.


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02 Mar 2010, 3:51 am

Awww...man...Dem underground?????Im not gonna comment on that....I post on a Conservative sites and if i were to go on dem underground, Id start a board war just with my presence since I am from the conservative message boards and I don't want to get the owners from them caught up in it.

I have never seen any posts on eradicating those on the spectrum on any conservative site Ive posted on.It seems the left is becoming intolerant and the right is sounding like the tolerant ones.


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02 Mar 2010, 2:54 pm

What concerns me is the title of the thread. Liberals advocate for the differences they understand. Show an outgoing liberal somebody on the spectrum, and they're just as likely to scowl at that as the next guy.



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03 Mar 2010, 12:24 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I come across many that are more intolerant than any conservative person I know.

Ditto.



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03 Mar 2010, 12:25 am

Tory_canuck wrote:
Awww...man...Dem underground?????Im not gonna comment on that....I post on a Conservative sites and if i were to go on dem underground, Id start a board war just with my presence since I am from the conservative message boards and I don't want to get the owners from them caught up in it.

I have never seen any posts on eradicating those on the spectrum on any conservative site Ive posted on.It seems the left is becoming intolerant and the right is sounding like the tolerant ones.

Not to mention Dem Underground is just like Rabble. They ban any opinion that is to the right of Jimmy Carter.



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03 Mar 2010, 1:21 am

Duh they can be bigots. Speaking as a bleeding heart liberal, there are douchebags of every political stripe. :lol:

Tim_Tex wrote:
I come across many that are more intolerant than any conservative person I know.


It might help that you're in Texas, they may feel threatened and so have their guards up. For the conservative intolerance side, I had a Republican woman once tell me she would only make an exception for abortion in the case of a Down's Syndrome or autistic child - and then told me she would have had me "terminated."

Jerkiness is pretty much universal I think.


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03 Mar 2010, 1:33 am

Aurore wrote:
Jerkiness is pretty much universal I think.

^^^^^ This.


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03 Mar 2010, 6:12 am

Aurore wrote:
For the conservative intolerance side, I had a Republican woman once tell me she would only make an exception for abortion in the case of a Down's Syndrome or autistic child - and then told me she would have had me "terminated."


Wow. Just...wow. How do you even respond to that? "Lucky for me, my parents aren't selfish bigots!" comes to mind. That is just a terrible thing to say to anyone!

How dare she imply that you -- or any of us -- don't deserve life because we're different from the majority?



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03 Mar 2010, 7:14 am

Rose_in_Winter wrote:
Aurore wrote:
For the conservative intolerance side, I had a Republican woman once tell me she would only make an exception for abortion in the case of a Down's Syndrome or autistic child - and then told me she would have had me "terminated."


Wow. Just...wow. How do you even respond to that? "Lucky for me, my parents aren't selfish bigots!" comes to mind. That is just a terrible thing to say to anyone!

How dare she imply that you -- or any of us -- don't deserve life because we're different from the majority?
Somewhere, I can sort of understand a kind of xenophobia, but I prefer not to interact with anything I find scary or threatening.



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04 Mar 2010, 2:35 am

Shebakoby wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I come across many that are more intolerant than any conservative person I know.

Ditto.


I agree. The people who most wrongly judged and bullied me happened to be liberals. They were LIARS to boot. I'm a lib myself, not to patronize anyone.



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04 Mar 2010, 2:38 am

Rose_in_Winter wrote:
Aurore wrote:
For the conservative intolerance side, I had a Republican woman once tell me she would only make an exception for abortion in the case of a Down's Syndrome or autistic child - and then told me she would have had me "terminated."


Wow. Just...wow. How do you even respond to that? "Lucky for me, my parents aren't selfish bigots!" comes to mind. That is just a terrible thing to say to anyone!

How dare she imply that you -- or any of us -- don't deserve life because we're different from the majority?


I didn't know how to respond. Have you ever had someone say something to you, and it's like your chest locks up? I had to leave. To be honest, that's haunted me for a long time.


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04 Mar 2010, 9:07 am

ursaminor wrote:
What I can never understand is why the point of view of the person with autism was never given.
Reminds me of that one Autism Speaks short; "I am autism".
But I cannot see it from the parents' point of view because I am not a parent and the parent is not autistic and I am and I am not interested in non-autistic people.
Apparently, nobody cares what the child thinks.

I like what one person said on a message board once:
"If you can't accept what comes out of your vagina, stop putting things in it."


I think that's very well said. I really like the last part.


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04 Mar 2010, 9:14 pm

Aurore wrote:
It might help that you're in Texas, they may feel threatened and so have their guards up. For the conservative intolerance side, I had a Republican woman once tell me she would only make an exception for abortion in the case of a Down's Syndrome or autistic child - and then told me she would have had me "terminated."


Jesus! Words fail me! :x


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05 Mar 2010, 1:04 pm

Aurore wrote:
Duh they can be bigots. Speaking as a bleeding heart liberal, there are douchebags of every political stripe. :lol:

Tim_Tex wrote:
I come across many that are more intolerant than any conservative person I know.


It might help that you're in Texas, they may feel threatened and so have their guards up. For the conservative intolerance side, I had a Republican woman once tell me she would only make an exception for abortion in the case of a Down's Syndrome or autistic child - and then told me she would have had me "terminated."

Jerkiness is pretty much universal I think.


8O 8O 8O So much for having empathy. Did she just use hers for decoration??

If it was told to me, I might just get mute... or I might say: "If God wills, I plan to live for at least 100 years. Just out of mere protest!" :D



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05 Mar 2010, 1:09 pm

I understand why the parents may feel heartbroken, when they see their kid play alone and not with others, or when they don't show common signs of affection, because that is what they know being signs of fellowship and affection.

But I think they need to learn that the kid doesn't need to be unhappy by playing alone, and that their lack of common signs of affection doesn't mean that the child doesn't love the parents. S/he may just show it differently (even if it's not shown, it doesn't necessarily mean lack of love), and it may be due to sensory issues.

Both parts need to learn to understand each other.