Why is it so wrong to love animals more than people?
It's in human nature to be attached to people. Even infants want to be loved and get affection but there are some people out there who don't need it so they prefer to be alone. They don't want to be held or anything. They just want to be left alone. parents freak out about it and are broken hearted their child doesn't want their affection. They feel rejected by their own child.
Anything that isn't in the norm is considered wrong and weird and people are so desperate to fix it.
I told my mom in the fall I don't miss her when she asked if I did or not and I said no and I was happy and I didn't need her. I found out two months later she was hurt by what I said but she thought about it and decided my marriage is happy and my husband is there and I am more independent I don't need them as much. My husband thought it was mean what I said but now my mom laughs about it and so did my husband afterward. I didn't understand why it was so mean and he told me I was supposed to miss them because they are my parents.
Didn't you say somewhere your mom said you can't go to vet school because it be too "hard?"
If one would love other animals more than humans, they would be less likely to procreate and would be less reluctant to approach some more dangerous animals, which would in turn increase their chances of dying.
Humans and all other animals are mostly incapable of thinking outside of those predetermined values and presets.
I actually value computers more than either, although I cannot hug them and they are largely incapable of performing comedy.
I also cannot eat them.
It is also funny that people think children are born as blank slates, while they are not.
Their entire personality is predetermined in the womb, long before birth.
Male fetuses, for example get a testosterone burst somewhere in the forming of them, which makes them male.
This makes them more prone to extreme deviations from the norm, because testosterone influences the brain lots, too.
Or even less extreme deviations from the norm, such as left-handedness.
But I digress lots.
I know why someone would think that, but I do not think that, so, as with all human behaviour, I can only rationally approach it with evolutionary theories but I cannot sympathize, much less empathize.
I like science, it is so useful.
I was taking this post seriously until you said that unborn children "get a testosterone burst somewhere in the forming of them, which makes them male." Ever heard of sex chromosomes? XY? XX? That's 9th Grade stuff.
Personality is not predetermined. But children are not blank slates either. Your genetics influences your personality, heavily so. But so does your environment.
I hate it when people state their opinions as fact.
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If one would love other animals more than humans, they would be less likely to procreate and would be less reluctant to approach some more dangerous animals, which would in turn increase their chances of dying.
Humans and all other animals are mostly incapable of thinking outside of those predetermined values and presets.
I actually value computers more than either, although I cannot hug them and they are largely incapable of performing comedy.
I also cannot eat them.
It is also funny that people think children are born as blank slates, while they are not.
Their entire personality is predetermined in the womb, long before birth.
Male fetuses, for example get a testosterone burst somewhere in the forming of them, which makes them male.
This makes them more prone to extreme deviations from the norm, because testosterone influences the brain lots, too.
Or even less extreme deviations from the norm, such as left-handedness.
But I digress lots.
I know why someone would think that, but I do not think that, so, as with all human behaviour, I can only rationally approach it with evolutionary theories but I cannot sympathize, much less empathize.
I like science, it is so useful.
I was taking this post seriously until you said that unborn children "get a testosterone burst somewhere in the forming of them, which makes them male." Ever heard of sex chromosomes? XY? XX? That's 9th Grade stuff.
Personality is not predetermined. But children are not blank slates either. Your genetics influences your personality, heavily so. But so does your environment.
I hate it when people state their opinions as fact.
I've always heard that early life expirence can shape a child's personality as well. I was a foster child for a while and CONSTANTLY being put in home after home because not one family could stand me for more than one night. I also felt rejected byt my adoptive parents and feared other human beings. Animals were the only consistantly kind living things I could find and I guess maybe I learned they were the only things that could be trusted.
Yes.
I asked because I saw the contradiction in your post. You did say in your other post your mom said that and then you say in you OP she won't answer you when you ask why can't you go to vet school. I don't understand why some people have issues with me calling out their irony. I have gotten my butt kicked for it several times.
How much math would there be in vet school? I know there has to be some, but it cant be higher than algebra. Anyone correct me if I am wrong of course.
I was thinking about this subject of animals today because in the past my daughter has accused me of being more affectionate towards the animals. I apologized to her for it, explained that they are easier to pick up and cuddle and have nice soft fur LOL. She is a big girl now and I cant pick her up and do that stuff to her anymore. Nor does she have fur. I love my dauighter more than anything.
But I cant say the same for the men who have come and gone in my life. It is another story for them . I really did love the animals more. My ex husband was really angry about it. I had to go away for two weeks to a military school, and I left him money for the cat's food (he wouldn't buy it) and asked him to feed the cat while I was gone. When I flew back home a coworker picked me up at the airport and we went to Walmart, where my husband worked, to buy something. He was horrified that I was back already and asked why I didn't call him to pick me up-(duh, he was working!). So I go home and there is no cat food and no cat. When he got home he had a bag of food and tells me he hasn't seen the cat in while. I never saw the cat again. Two weeks later he was heading back home to his mom with his belongings and I never saw him again either. I wonder what he did to my cat, but it is probably better I don't know.
That totally reinforces why I love the cats more than most humans. The cat just loved me. He would follow me around, come running up to me and jump into my arms when I would come home. He never bothered my ex.
At no time would I get rid of my pets for a guy. I don't think I am capable of loving a man enough to send the animals packing. And they make allergy medicines for pets allergies so that is no excuse.
What's wrong with deliberately choosing to? I don't love them in a sexual way. I've NEVER been able to "connect" with another human being. I fear other human beings and if I have to be in a group of them and can't hold my bearded dragon with me, I have a panic attack. As a child, I needed to have a stuffed animal with me constantaly or else I would have a panic attack. I plan to get a service dog by the time I go to college or find some way to have my bearded dragon registered as an offical service animal. I don't see having Pippin registered because too many stupid people are afraid of lizards. I came across an article where a man cliams his pet snake helps him know he is going to have a seziure. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ls19m.html
What about people who need a service animal but are afraid of or don't like dogs? You can only have a service horse if you are blind.
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I imagine biology/chemistry would be in there somewhere as well. If you plan to perform surgery on animals, it might be an idea to know something about their anatomies.
I imagine biology/chemistry would be in there somewhere as well. If you plan to perform surgery on animals, it might be an idea to know something about their anatomies.
Depending on the school, calculuss or trig are required. I'm not trying to get out of the requirment, I do plan on having the accomaditons I need. I'm not as bad as my mom thinks I am, I just can't memorise the times tables but aside from that I am just as capable of becoming a rocket scientist. I study animal anamoty for kicks and am going crazy trying to find a diagram of meerkat internal anamoty. How am I to become the leading authority on meerkat medicine if there are no recources? I guess I'll have to create the recources.
I know my spelling is attrocious but then WP isn't a pretigious veternary journal and I'm not planing on showing my WP posts when I apply for vet school. I am a perfectionist on school work but not on casual message board "conversations".
to me reading this the question becomes is it easier to reciprocate unconditional love or conditional love and the answer to that seems pretty obvious.
if I take this scenario and apply it to my own life the thing I come up with is that we give authority sometimes to people who don't experience reality the same way we do. I don't think loving or not loving is something you can control. I mean, you can forgive people for wrongs because sometimes unforgiveness is an impediment to love, but if people do really horrible things to us sometimes they don't deserve our love. But if there is no impediment to love there and it's just a matter of your heart applying it's love wherever and to whatever degree it feels like, as long as you aren't hurting anyone I don't see the harm in it (not that I believe you can control it that much anyway).
I think what people are addressing when they say that is that basic drive all species have to insure their continued existence by making sure they are bonded to members of their own species more than other species. That's like an innate drive, but humans would really screw up the entire ecosystem (more than they already have) if there were not people who valued animals to this extent.
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Technically people are animals
It's not wrong to love animals more at all. But people might see it as odd some how because you prefer animals other than your own and you're supposed to be loyal to your own species or whatever.
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PunkyKat, your mom probably said that because you hurt her feelings. She loves you more than anything, and you love...a lizard (who doesn't do all the things she does for you, like feeding and housing and clothing you, etc.) No doubt she was offended by you saying that, and tried to justify her own personal feelings by generalizing about it being "wrong" to love animals more.
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