should aspies have to go to prison?

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People on the spectrum should not get a pass for their crimes. However, I don't believe in prison. We need a restorative justice system in where those who commit property crimes should have to repay the victim. Also, if I sit on a jury, I will vote not guilty for any act that violates an unconstitutional law. This includes any law in which there is no injury, property damage, or theft. This means that I will acquit anyone for driving without a license, curfew violations, failure to register as an offender, failure to buy health insurance, etc.

If the system of laws you violated were valid, then your punishment is as well.

I spent a month in jail once due to not recognizing the "right" of ANYONE to detain me if I am not/have not directly injured someone.

Being jailed for ignoring a bench warrant you received for ignoring a court appearance regarding a falsified registration sticker you put on your car so you could drive it to work to be able to actually get proper registration... well, suffice to say, when a cop attempts to arrest me, I go elsewhere.

When I finally got cornered, I do not recognize the validity of the level of the punishment, nor the specifications of the law(s) I violated, and my ONLY motivation for not breaking laws is to avoid being bothered.

NOT because I think they are valid, some are, but the vast majority of them are based on an illusion of the power to grant rights which most people consider government to have.


Were I to suddenly obtain a method to utterly destroy every trace of the legal system that jailed me, I would do it without a moment of hesitation. They were wrong in their intent, reasoning, and methods.


Society is a system of rules which must be agreed upon by all parties, any structure which claims to be above that definition, and thus claims to have power to force agreement upon others, is evil.

Unless someone had done a horrid and brutal crime,
on purpose of course, the prison term
should be only that, a prison term,
sitting in a cell, not being terrorised and
cruelly and unusually punished by other
inmates, just left alone to sit and sit and sit.

If its because of a stupid law, and said person
did Not do a horrid or brutal crime, and the
person is not able to defend themselfs
then they should be imprisoned in a separate
area not in gen pop. Just sit in a cel and stagnate,
or if they are fixable, they shood be put in
rehap theripy to rehab them.

I am saying it would be much more efficient
to put the correct prisoners where they belong
inside the prison, otherwise the ones who either
realise they did wrong and want to fix themselfs
Can, and the ones that would go sykiotyick
(probly like me because I wood probly scratch
and bite and go nuts) now wood that do anyone
any good? It would just save everyone trubble
to just dump me in a lone cell and leave me
there to think about what I did than to brutalise
me because they are also a lot odf defects.

I can't comunicate well so if I say anything skrudnicky
than please help me translate.

Made perfect sense to me... but I'm a cat, and your sig suggests you prefer their company as well.

most aspies are not psychotic so why shouldn't they if they broke the law?

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/ne ... successful

It seems the sentence was reduced because the lawyer argued:

- 'Excell suffers from Asperger's syndrome, which contributed to his lack of understanding of appropriate sexual and social behaviour'
- Aspergers people can get fixated (i.e. this became his strong interest).
- His lawyer mentioned he would be manifestly unsuited for jail as if inmates asked him why he was in there he would tell them (i.e. he would be at risk).
- He had to inject Testosterone for another condition he had and it made him horny.

But also that jail would be a waste of time for him and rehabilitation would be better

The same reason most people shouldn't go to jail: a lack of validity in the law being broken.

I've had a driver's license once, passed the test easily, no accidents, even drove a cab for a while.

It lapsed years ago, I'm not concerned with such an arbitrary requirement that I be forced to either continually obtain new copies of the same proof of competence, or repeat the actual proof to reacquire one after a lapse.

That's like making someone get a new diploma to hang on their wall every five years, or make them retest to obtain a new one if their old one expires.

Yes Aspies should go to prison. You commit a crime you face the punishment, but it doesn't mean that punishment should be prison. Often Aspie's and NT criminals have a skill that they could use to benefit society. I think that those people could be of good use to society and that they could serve their sentence in other ways such as community service. In prison you rot and do nothing which is bad for society when the person is released from jail and can only get a job at minimum wage. However let's not let serial killers out of prison.

Especially depending upon the crime, having Asperger's Syndrome, by no means, should allow someone to get away with a crime that they purposefully, knowingly committed. If it was a crime that the person didn't realize, for some odd reason, that they were committing, then they should get a reduced sentence, but overall, I think someone with Asperger's should face the same punishment as those without it. Those with Asperger's are aware of what they are doing & are also aware of right & wrong. If you have Asperger's Syndrome, & you steal something, you know that stealing is wrong & you should face the consequences of it. The same goes for murder & almost anything else.

Duh of course if you commit a crime you should be locked up.

Now if, say, someone induced that Aspergian to meltdown and he lashed out (say he panicked at being forcibly touched and started lashing out..) No, they shouldn't.

I'm still very much capable of deciding my actions, and I think that counts for most of us here. Yes, I have a crisis from time to time, but I lock myself up when needed, but I can temper it.

Yes being an Aspie should not preclude you going to jail. If you do the crime, you should do the time. However, in certain cases I think there should be leniency on the basis of a mental disorder, but what if the case is rape or murder, the person should definitely go to jail regardless of AS or not.

Obligatory jail for asperger people? Certainly not!

By the way, in the Don Jail in Toronto, it's so unpleasant there that people are forced to plead guilty in order to get out of there - surely that's torture. A mentally ill person was murdered there recently and the baying mob said he deserved it for ending up there. Savages, they all are.