Changed my mind about my Myers Briggs Typology.
YW, it is just the sticky that is in the Quizzes forum....
I didnt know that there was a link between these types and ynaethesia, perhaps Michaelj will come back and shed some light....
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Taking a break.
I didnt know that there was a link between these types and ynaethesia, perhaps Michaelj will come back and shed some light....
Thanks for that link to the sticky poll. I am noticing a lot of ISTJs in that list as well. For some reason, the poll results don't show up for me, just the poll question every time. I even took the risk of answering it to see if that was a requirement to see the results. So if it actually counted, subtract one ENFP from the list, as I'm neurotypical (but bipolar II actually, if that counts as atypical [I am a visitor to your planet on occasion perhaps? Here's my green card...watch, it turns black sometimes..]
It's my own observations, based on a discussion on a synesthesia website forum like this one, and in real life, that there seems to be a correlation between between INFJs and synesthesia. Like my previous observations, it would take some real research to support it, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it
And just to make another point, I also notice quite a bit of misunderstanding about the nature of the MBTI. Unfortunately that's the nature of getting an indicator online. The one that is referenced is pretty much the one that everybody on the web takes, and I can imagine that they have quite a lot of people in their databanks. But that version is unofficial, and according the website, hasn't been put through the validation wringer. In my opinion, it's pretty accurate, although I do have issues with how they measure the E/I dichotomy, and emphasize the social aspects to it a bit much. E and I is about worlds, not people. Shy extraverts (more about social anxiety than energy preference) may show up as I's based on this version.
Not that I don't also have issues with the official MBTI. Any good practitioner should be free to criticize one's tools. It's the scientific way.
Have I noticed a correlation btw INFP and synesthesia? Not consciously, but I wouldn't be surprised either. They *are* overrepresented with artists of all stripes and kinds. Actors are another cohort overrepresented in the INFP Type as well. It's the NF pairing (ideas and people) that tend to produce it IMHO. Auras and all that
I've taken the formal test with a Myers-Briggs trainer and I came up as INFP. She said told me the N was close to the S borderline, and that it was unusual.
I remember telling her that I felt more like an ISFP that INFP, but I don't know if I just wanted to be the ISFP more based on the descriptions given.
I've done a couple of online tests since then, and still came up INFP, so I suspect that's my "native" MBTI.
Heh...I completely pegged out the "N" when I did the Keirsey test in a leadership course. I had the most extreme "N" rating of anyone in my class, and was asked to speak in the "What would you say to the S types" part of the exercise.
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Official diagnosis: ADHD, synesthesia. Aspie quiz result (unofficial test): Like Frodo--I'm a halfling?
Ugh. That's such the wrong approach (although I suspect that you might have enjoyed it based on the way you spoke about it).
For one, it should be groups vs. groups, not individuals. Picking the extremes to be the representatives invites, well, extremism. And when dealing with Type, it's best to split the group up into four subgroups, not two, (via two letter combos) to show the differences and variety of Type, as opposed to an us vs. them, unless you plan on doing a *lot* of debriefing afterward. When you have *four* sides to every story, it tends to break the potential animosity up a little.
Unfortunately there's a lot of good intentions with poor execution when it comes to educating about Type. But I tend to feel like Don Quixote, not Ghandi, after a while.
I am also extreme on N and P. I am definitely F though been brought up in a family of Thinkers has sort of skewed me in that direction a bit too.
E though, that was a hard one. Originally I thought I was an INFJ,but it didnt seem right. I assumed I was an introvert but when I saw ENFP it fit in every way, it was awesome reading it... it explained why I am messy, never finish things, spent a lot of time at school talking and writing notes to people instead of studying.... all sorts of things. I dont have very good social skils though.... ![]()
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"Caravan is the name of my history, and my life an extraordinary adventure."
~ Amin Maalouf
Taking a break.
E though, that was a hard one. Originally I thought I was an INFJ,but it didnt seem right. I assumed I was an introvert but when I saw ENFP it fit in every way, it was awesome reading it... it explained why I am messy, never finish things, spent a lot of time at school talking and writing notes to people instead of studying.... all sorts of things. I dont have very good social skils though....
Can you describe to me what it means and how it feels to be a ENFP Feeler, but Autistic? On the surface, it seems contradictory, of course, given that both Extravert and Feeler have the popular connotation of being "People People." FP means Introverted Feeling, so it's about your values, not communal ones. Is it a you vs. world kind of feeling?
Ugh. That's such the wrong approach (although I suspect that you might have enjoyed it based on the way you spoke about it).
For one, it should be groups vs. groups, not individuals. Picking the extremes to be the representatives invites, well, extremism. And when dealing with Type, it's best to split the group up into four subgroups, not two, (via two letter combos) to show the differences and variety of Type, as opposed to an us vs. them, unless you plan on doing a *lot* of debriefing afterward. When you have *four* sides to every story, it tends to break the potential animosity up a little.
Unfortunately there's a lot of good intentions with poor execution when it comes to educating about Type. But I tend to feel like Don Quixote, not Ghandi, after a while.
Nothing got out of hand, so it was an enjoyable experience, definitely. I also forgot to mention that they had the people closest to the middle speak as well.
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Official diagnosis: ADHD, synesthesia. Aspie quiz result (unofficial test): Like Frodo--I'm a halfling?
E though, that was a hard one. Originally I thought I was an INFJ,but it didnt seem right. I assumed I was an introvert but when I saw ENFP it fit in every way, it was awesome reading it... it explained why I am messy, never finish things, spent a lot of time at school talking and writing notes to people instead of studying.... all sorts of things. I dont have very good social skils though....
Can you describe to me what it means and how it feels to be a ENFP Feeler, but Autistic? On the surface, it seems contradictory, of course, given that both Extravert and Feeler have the popular connotation of being "People People." FP means Introverted Feeling, so it's about your values, not communal ones. Is it a you vs. world kind of feeling?
It can feel pretty damn difficult ometimes. I feel an urge to make friends with people but I dont speak the same language as them, it seems. I talk a lot about my opinions and ideas and end up in a lot of arguments with people. Also people sometimes do small talk and other types of verbal repartee whch I dont understand...
Yes my values and feelngs drive me which makes me very opinionated. But my first function is intuition, so I lke to get my ideas out there and be creative with stuff.... I think all this stuff comes frst and people come second, likely due to the aSpergers.
I dontknow what iit would be like to me a neurotypical ENFP. Probably it wold be quite different.....
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"Caravan is the name of my history, and my life an extraordinary adventure."
~ Amin Maalouf
Taking a break.
I just read another great book that has helped me reevaluate my type indicator: Building Blocks of Personality Type by Leona Haas and Mark Hunziker with a forward by John Beebe. It offers fairly complete descriptions of each of the eight processes from inside and outside the individual (including how people view each process in themselves as well as how people tend to view the processes in other individuals). Leona Haas has found that many people test one way, but some of us, when we don't think the type indicator really fits, can look at the various preferences in another way and find that our true preferences reveal themselves.
I just read another great book that has helped me reevaluate my type indicator: Building Blocks of Personality Type by Leona Haas and Mark Hunziker with a forward by John Beebe.
I have that book as well. I have a couple issues with a few points of it. First, she lists the "Bill of Rights" as Te, extraverted Thinking, when they're really Introverted Feeling, it's opposite. (But there's a relation between the two). Secondly, she says that Ni is future and Ne is timeless, and it's the reverse. I've expressed my issues with the author.
I never really "got" Myers-Briggs until I saw this video.
Based on that video, I was INTP, although I related with INTJ as well... and somewhat less with ENTP and ENTJ.
Then I looked up the description of these different personality types on this website. INTP still sounded like the best description. Then I did the test on that website, which again told me I'm INTP. This IMO confirmed for me that INTP is indeed the best match.
So, based on my personal experience with it, I wouldn't say that Myers-Briggs is not suitable for people with Autism. However, I wouldn't be surprised if a subset of Myers-Briggs personality types is over-represented among people with Autism. Judging by other threads, INTJ & INTP are the most common personality types among people on this forum, followed by INFJ, INFP & ISTJ.

