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One of the commenters, juliette wrote "boys will be boys"
People were not too happy..

Man, pissed on or get your hair forcibly cut. I could imagine how my psychopath farther would have reacted to that behavior. He'd beat up the bullies parents I bet. I am so glad it never escalated past a punch in the head from bullies.

Sadly, bullying is something that we just haven't been able to resolve in society to date. I was bullied, and most any and all people not within the "normal, in-crowd", have suffered some degree of bullying. I was always much taller and more muscular than other kids in school, and I was the best target you can imagine, for a small twirp of a bully who could easily get at me due to my quiet, trouble-evading nerdly personality.

I got a lucky break by the time I was in high school, which mitigated the problem for me a little. First, I became on good terms with one of the popular kids; a football team member who was very popular. I have no idea why he was nice to me, but maybe it's because he has a little brother with diabetes, and he's a good person. He basically had the respect of all the bullies, and if he said I was cool, it was law. That's something which can only happen by accident, but maybe it will happen to a few good Aspies who need it. Otherwise, there's always the old fashioned way, which (unfortunately) is the only way I know of for NT people to prevent or end bullying.... A fat lip on the first bully who tries anything. If you get a black eye in the process, just be sure the bully got somewhat hurt too. They're cowards, and won't EVER pick on anyone if there's any chance the victim might come up with a surprise fist. (DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT ADVISE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! IN SCHOOL, IT CAN LAND YOU IN THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE, OR WORSE IN THE COUNTY JAIL)

Just think it over and read between the lines

Charles

The worst bullying I saw in school was when I was in high school English when they removed me from special education and put me in "normal" classes. There was this idiot who was always messing with this one weird girl we were all doing some writing assignment while the teacher left to make a phone call when we heard the girl scream when everyone turned around we saw the kid putting his testicles back in his pants and the girl was crying her eyes out. Some kid from the soccer team beat the hell out of the kid. It turns out he put his testicles on the girl's shoulder to make his friends laugh. His friends seemed to laugh the most at his ass whooping at the hands of the soccer player. The soccer player was suspend for three weeks and the testicle kid was suspended for one week At that point I really missed the safety and normal behavior of the special education classes and the students in them.

Exactly the same here. People would call me disgusting names, yell insults at me while I was trying to focus in sports class, and the second I shouted back, I got reprimanded.

Boys used to touch my breasts or backside, if I slapped them, I got reprimanded.

It's as if teachers are on the side of the bullies because 'they've got problems'. Yes they probably do and that's sad but it does NOT give them the right to hurt other people.

I'm glad that the soccer kids at least knew it was wrong and roughed the testicle kid up.

I was pushed out out of the Little Tykes playhouse when I was five but I think they were just being impatient so they pushed me out as I was leaving and they were also special needs kids.

Well, this is limited to Ireland a few decades back. When my teachers found out that I had been abused, they took the opportunity to abuse me themselves or bully me.

And they wonder why I'm an atheist.

-.-

In Ireland, even dead doesn't seem to cut it. I know abused class mates who survived it in childhood only to drink or drug themselves to death later. Same ppl who abused me. No prosecution. Ireland is more concerned with the church than with it's children.

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I saw other commenters also weren't happy with what she said so one of them said she should be peed on for her comment.

I used to beat up my bullies, to show them a little pain.

I had a lot of problems with bulling as a kid but my mom's a pre-K teacher & I've heard more than a few stories about kids in her class hitting & biting other kids. My mom sends em to the office & they try calling the parents but parents can not be reached so the kids get sent back to her class. I think the parents & the school system are to blame(& by school system I do NOT mean the teachers; I mean the way administration is set up). A lot of students are coming from troubled family backgrounds; parents have drug problems & the parents encourage the kids to have behavior problems so they can get government benefits & take the kids meds. Some of the parents in my mom's class actually bragged about how they tell the kid to give the teacher hell when they put the kid on the bus. Some people think of the school system as being little more than a free babysitting service that offers the kids free lunch & breakfast, It's very hard for a teacher to keep discipline when the parents don't care. It's a shame that the good students have to be suck in a class with bad. My mom actually got in trouble a couple years ago cuz she pulled a bully off another student. How cna a teacher keep order in the classroom when the parents & administration will not let the teachers enforce discipline

Children are not innocent, this is a common misconception. If anything, they're the worst of them all, because children know no morals, no right or wrong, etc. Two 10 year olds were recently tried in court for raping an 8 year old, and before that two kids kidnapped a younger boy, beat him, possibly sexually assaulted him, and threw him on the train tracks where his body was chopped in half by a train.

This story is nothing in comparison to what a child can really do - which is part of the message of Lord of the Flies I guess.

But anyway, I digress.

I was very lucky to have my bullying sorted out early in secondary school, as I had a good head of year who was respected and somewhat feared, yet was nice to the good kids.

As for defending myself, I've never gotten in trouble for it, because I'm one of the good ones and therefore have a good reputation amongst the teachers and other staff, whereas any fights that have happened were against someone with a bad reputation who gets excluded all the time - so which one do you think they're gonna punish?

throw the parents in there while yer at it; they get it from home, and then have it reinforced at school.

It's why I want my own eventuals home-schooled.

And of course cutting hair isn't too far for them; remember, NTs pretty much imply that someone has to sexually assault you before your dropping them is honestly considered wrong; and in many cases for them even after that they "let bygones be bygones".

Pitiful, really, but we should learn to expect it.

Is so wish that'd be true...

Children can have morals. I have seen kids with morals, and even if they lack them, they have brains, so they definetely can get them. Unless you're dealing with a toddler kids aren't innocent. They have the ability to think and that actually can work, and some do that.

And the ignorance of teachers is shocking.

I wouldn't actually depend on that, cause unfortunately society is actually built for them, not us.

Regardless, don't worry about if karma comes to them or not; concern yourself more with making your own life better and being the best you can be at what you are/do.

That way, Karma will come to you, and will be good to you.