Why are ADHDers considered NT here?

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I wish there was an option for "Other non NT diagnosis." I end up explaining that all the time. I'm not NT but I'm not on the spectrum. For some specific questions posed to NTs in general I may be able to answere reasonably, but for other things I'm just as not-NT as anybody. I've got two kids on the spectrum and a third that is super mega utra not NT, but apparently doesn't have an ASD though he was at one time dx'd as PDD-NOS.

It'd be nice to have a shorthand for that.

I don't really like the term 'NT', because there are all kinds of neurological differences/disorders people can have, and it seems a huge assumption to refer to anyone who is not autistic as NT. I tend to use the term 'non-autistic' when I'm talking about differences between autistic people and non-autistic people in general - but I do find if I'm on a forum where everyone's using the term NT, I will sometimes use it too, just because it seems to be the accepted shorthand.

Good question....I have epilepsy, Asperger's, *and* ADHD....what does that make me?

~Kate

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Neurodiverse=ND. You could also add Not Otherwise Specified=NOS, if there was no add-on like ADD or ADHD

NDNOS. A little cumbersome, but at least your would not be NT.

Yes.

Asperger's is within the spectrum, so you are not Neurotypical.

I guess my husband is NT then even thought he doesn't function like one.

I have to imagine there's quite a continuum, though, even within the ADHD category. My dad who has ADHD is a very, very social, outgoing person, and no, he doesn't stress out about idle chitchat. Me--it depends. My tolerance for it is very low. If I know you well, I'm more inclined to accept it. If I don't know you well...I'll do surface pleasantries and not be interested in going further. Party environment? Unless we're talking about a sci-fi convention or other place that plays to an interest of mine? Fuhgeddaboudit. A couple of occasions in college I remember ending up in tears in the middle of a party and I was NOT having any part of that anymore. It was just incredibly distressing. (Once was a beer party. The other time...it was a prayer group that was very, VERY "charismatic," and even as a Christian it completely sent me over the edge.)

I feel like I understand people, like I read emotions well, AND I can fake superficial chat fairly decently when I want to (but oh God if my mom's friends are around...SNORE...not to mention their voices and tendency to touch and stand right in your face), but I just...have zero patience with some things. The people I actually make friends with are pretty much always geeks, or otherwise very intelligent people who aren't afraid to "go deep."

Non-NT is someone with a brain disorder so that includes ADHD and dyslexia. I'd even consider schizophrenia and bipolar to be non-NT. People with anxiety or depression are still NT, because these are treatable chemical imbalances.
NT to me is basically those without the kind of issues each person with a neurological disorder face. ADHD and ASD have more in common than people think.
People with ADHD have social issues, executive functioning issues and can even have some autistic traits.
My ADHD is worse than my AS. The concentration issues, comprehension issues, low energy (I'm inattentive/hypoactive) - it all adds up to make me a very irritable and lethargic person. But my AS traits are apprehension to change and getting fixed in one area of interest that it's all that really matters to me.
So I agree. People with ADHD are not NT. Some of them don't even consider themselves as NT.

Neurotypical is basically a label I give to stereotype the most social people with hardly any sort of neurological impairment. I know some with AS and ADHD can be extroverted but that's the way I see NT.
If someone had ADHD and had no impairment they wouldn't need to be diagnosed. It's more than just concentration, hyper or hypoactivity. The symptoms are very common to Asperger's. My sensory issues go away when I'm on meds. Makes me think that they're not ASD related, although both areas of the brain are affected in both disorder so the symptoms are similar.

I was on ADD message boards for years before I had ever even heard of Asperger's...I was in search of a reason for all my difficulties, and this fit the most. It was only on some forum when someone suggested to me that they associated the traits I described as being part of the autistic spectrum that I started looking into it.
I am assessed by an AS specialist and she had the stron opinion that I have Asperger's , but it is not an actual diagnosis, because there is no paperwork and I did not have to take hours of tests.... She told me that the AS cancels out the ADD traits according to the DSM-V and that all of my ADD traits are actually part of my AS.
I am confused as to what I am actually diagnosed with. This is my second time to be under the treatment of a doctor for ADD...my preliminary interviews did not take very long. I have had no extensive testing...but since I am being administered ADD meds, does that count as a diagnosis??
One ADD doc insisted that I shell out several thousand dollars for tests before he would concider any further treatment..and he was sort of an a**hole...
I had another doc agree that I was most likely on the spectrum, and was more receptive to that idea than to the ADD one....but he said that my assessment did not count as a diagnosis and he wrote PDD-NOS on my sheet...
I keep quite about the AS stuff with my current ADD doc...it keeps things less complicated...

I really do think that um...there is a definite crossover between AS and ADD...I am in a hazy limbo between the two...I am sort of atypical for an Aspie in some ways..if there really is such a thing as "typical", but I have a lot of AS traits....I had real difficulties growing up.
Traits also run in my family on both sides...

I think that since AS hit mainstream only recently, there are lots of people who are diagnosed with ADD who are actually on the autistic spectrum (if ADD is indeed not part of the autistic spectrum, and I tend to believe that it is)

When I was a kid, I had a lot of developmental difficulties and social difficulties, and I did very badly at school because I was constantly distracted and bombarded with sensory issues..Nobody knew what the deal with me was...because I wasn't ret*d..I had made the highest test scores in the entire school on stantardized tests. There was no label that anyone could place on me...ADD was unheard of in my neck of the woods as well...

I have caught a wee bit of flack here and there because i list my diagnosis as "other spectrum disorder" and not Aspergers diagnosed...and also because I mention my ADD issues a lot....since that is what I am treated for...
I don't feel like putting "not sure if I have it or not...I am just not sure what would connotate an actual diagnosis...

I continue to struggle with a lot of different difficulties...um..despite my ADD meds which often seem to trump up some of my AS symptoms...

The first time I ever heard the word NT it was used by another (supposed) "NT" (not diagnosed with any autistic pspectrum disorder)...in a derogatory sense as he complained about the girl he was dating as being a bit too "neurotypical" for him...By his definition, i guess it meant that she was just wired to like boring mundane mainstream things...I guess.

Really, then I'm not the only one, when I'm on meds for my condition, my sensory stuff mostly goes away, but I'm left with above-average senses, but I can deal with them.

I'm dxed with schizoaffective (schizophrenia and bipolar) right now, but as a kid it was dxed as ADHD and severely emotionally impaired. My therapist still thinks I might have some ADHD left... but anyway I have serious lack of social functioning and it's not fun.

We could elect to have a Neuro-decaf with a twist of lemon as a separate category BUT I honestly think better than making more and more categories is to examine what it is about the NT "label" that makes it feel bad or the ASD label that makes it so much more comfortable to you.

NT ought NOT extend to demeaning generalisations and NT ought not be code for "everything that is bad" or "the enemy" any more than sexuality, gender or nationality (OK there is a heap more but these are examples).

Simply put if there is nothing wrong in either case and you are ok in understanding that ADHD is not AS or autism then why the concern?

lol. Because there are other neurological disorders besides autism. I didn't know that epileptics actually could be NT when I wrote this, though. I have no feelings about any of this. I just get uneasy when things aren't concise. If epileptics can be NT then ADHDers can too.

Mate I will like you whatever label you attach to yourself if you are nice and dislike you regardless of label if you are not nice.

Some people consider ADHD to be an ASD, so whether it is or not remains controversial. ADHD could be a matter of neurology. People get confused on the Ritilin and other stimulants issue...why does it slow these kids down. Stimulants have a different affect on kids than adults, which could explain why.