Of all the Aspergers symptoms, which ones DON'T apply to you

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18 Jun 2010, 2:00 pm

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The more I studied the disorder and came to understand what some of those dry clinical descriptions actually mean, as opposed to what they seem to mean on first read, I've come to realize there isn't a single AS trait I don't have to one degree or another. Its the clinical language that's misleading.

That's why the discussions about empathy, theory of mind, emotional reciprocity and such keep coming up here over and over endlessly, because they seem to be describing things that don't apply, but once you get a grasp of what they're actually referring to, it kinds of makes you back up and say "Oh...well, that is me then."


I couldn't agree more! I think it's really a matter of how well you really know yourself. I didn't think I had some of the traits at first either. After a lot of study, and a little humility thrown in, I have them all, but some are less noticeable than others, at least to myself. Not to mention I've spent so many years "faking it" I've learned to mask some of them, but they ARE there.


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18 Jun 2010, 2:04 pm

Right there with Willard and MrXxx...and the more studies or articles I read the more I go "Damn, will they stop talking about me"



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18 Jun 2010, 2:10 pm

Willard wrote:
The more I studied the disorder and came to understand what some of those dry clinical descriptions actually mean, as opposed to what they seem to mean on first read, I've come to realize there isn't a single AS trait I don't have to one degree or another. Its the clinical language that's misleading.

That's why the discussions about empathy, theory of mind, emotional reciprocity and such keep coming up here over and over endlessly, because they seem to be describing things that don't apply, but once you get a grasp of what they're actually referring to, it kinds of makes you back up and say "Oh...well, that is me then."


I couldn't agree more.


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18 Jun 2010, 2:25 pm

MrXxx wrote:
I couldn't agree more! I think it's really a matter of how well you really know yourself. I didn't think I had some of the traits at first either. After a lot of study, and a little humility thrown in, I have them all, but some are less noticeable than others, at least to myself. Not to mention I've spent so many years "faking it" I've learned to mask some of them, but they ARE there.


This is what I'm finding as well. Ever since I started reading about Aspergers and seeing myself in them every day something will pop into my head that I do or have done that reconfirms my suspicions! I'm definitely getting a better understanding of myself now.



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18 Jun 2010, 2:38 pm

I agree with the always wise Willard as well. I believe I have all of the traits, but not necessarily all the clinical criteria as desribed.

As a whole I feel very typical, but some of the criteria don't seem to fit exactly. Asperger's is a syndrome that is greater than the sum of its parts.

If I had to name an exception in my case, it would be that I am very good at recognizing feelings and facial expressions and/or cues in others. I usually choose the wrong responses to them, but I can easily recognize when someone is bored or angry or sad.

I also use a lot of gestures and facial expressions myself. I think I am over-expressive.


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18 Jun 2010, 4:19 pm

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I have no routine but I have areas where I like to be kept a certain way.



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19 Jun 2010, 3:01 am

Isn't this essentially the Aspie = FAIL thread?


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19 Jun 2010, 3:24 am

i don't monologue, and i have a very spotty long term memory (which could be why i don't monologue, but also generally not inclined to divulge much of anything to much of anybody much of the time)

i do, however, have inner dialogues where i'm delivering lectures to myself, and i go on & on about my interests in letters or emails to particular people. so i see that as having the trait, but it's very internalized. i'm overcautious about what to say to people and keep my mouth shut a lot.


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19 Jun 2010, 3:54 am

I don't lecture people, except my mother. I don't interact with others in person, barring mechanical stuff (which is actually a lot when you think about it).

I didn't have a delay in motor ability.



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19 Jun 2010, 7:47 am

I don't have:
any special interests
can fit in with NTs when needed
don't over analyze every little thing someone says or does
no problems starting conversations with anyone, including possible dates
no problem being turned down for a date, I merely move on


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19 Jun 2010, 8:15 am

Seanmw wrote:
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i'm not that obsessed about routines...


+1


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19 Jun 2010, 8:38 am

I'm one of the best examples of Aspie, but...

I'm not sociophobic
I'm good actress (but it's really exhausting, after I fall asleep like narcoleptic)
I'm not dysgraphic (but I can't write cursive and sign)
I'm not dyslexic
I like mass events (like concerts or football matches - but not parties)
I'm not asexual
I'm not very literal (because I learned idioms and sayings)


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19 Jun 2010, 8:54 am

I'm not hypersensitive to touch. I actually like being touched, it gives me a sense of....security, I guess.

Also, I generally have no problem reading facial expressions or knowing social cues. For example, when I'm talking with someone, I always wait until that person is finished talking before I start talking.



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19 Jun 2010, 1:53 pm

I read facial expression and body language exceptionally well.


I have no problem looking anyone in the eyes. (But I cannot think about what I'm saying when I'm speaking, while looking into someone's eye's unless it's something short.)


I can be empathic when I decide to be.

I'm physically coordinated and not clumsy.



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19 Jun 2010, 2:06 pm

Im able to make eye contact; although I sometimes do not know how long to do so.

I as well like mass event like football games, but not parties.

I am able to pick up social cues and even feel limited empathy to those with similar experiences; I am not good on responding to these cues and acting appropriately.

If I run into someone unexpectedly, I am able to recognize them but I often experience "a deer in headlights" reaction since I was not expecting the social interaction.



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19 Jun 2010, 4:21 pm

I meet most of the official criteria in the DSM to qualify, but it's some of the lesser known 'symptoms' or stereotypes that don't apply to me.

for example:

I have no sensititivity to sound or visual stimuli, at least not anymore so than the 'average' person.
I can usually recognize sarcasm.
I'm not that literal.
I don't monologue. In fact, I tend to avoid talking about my interests with many people when I can.
I'm a good writer, and I'm creative.
Although I have bad coordination, it's perhaps not as bad as most aspies for me (i.e. I'm not bumping into things or falling over, ala Steve Urkel).

There are perhaps more, but that's all I can think of for now.