Julius Robert Oppenheimer and Aspergers

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ThomasL
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25 Sep 2010, 2:38 am

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The Japanese did indeed have an atomic bomb program - there's even a Wikipedia article about it (and a book, published in 1985 - I think that's where I read about it).


Interesting tidbit I hadn't picked up on until now.

I would address the rest of your post, but I fear I've already done enough to steer the topic off track. That discussion would be better held in the PPR forum anyway.

Sorry to the OP if I threw the thread off.


My apologies also to the OP. Where is this PPR forum? Is there some way we can more these posts to that forum?

Or do we have the OP's permission to continue this topic? It's hardly unrelated - I would think the OP would be interested in it. But if he objects, I will apologize again and stop posting on this topic/thread.



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25 Sep 2010, 4:01 am

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It was technically impossible. In 1945 USA had only two bombs and wouldn't have enough time to build enough bombs to destroy USSR.


Well, I can see from your avatar that you admire the Russkies, but are you sure? The US had a 4-year window of opportunity to produce a few more bombs (1945 - 1949, when the Russians got their own). I really don't think that was the problem. It didn't take 4 years to produce the 2 bombs we used against Japan, and anyway, at that point we knew exactly how to do it, so just make more - should be much faster. Right?


I made a slight - and common - mistake. To be more precise, there was three bombs : the two which exploded in Japan and one which was tested in the USA a few weeks before. I could be important to know : they were two kinds of bombs (the first was like the Nagasaki one, the Hiroshima one was a different kind - on which the development was later focused).
I don't know how many times does take the building of one "Little Boy" atomic bomb when you already know how to build it, but keep in mind that USSR is very very wide... I know that nuking each yard of Soviet ground isn't the point :P but, even if USA could build enough bombs to do this, how to carry them ? They would need :
- enough bombers for the A-bombs
- enough fighters to escort them
- enough bombers for ground attacks (destroying Soviet flak)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_d7wa0cxDU[/youtube]

I don't know a lot about military aviation but ask myself... Do you think an US heavy bomber taking off in West-Germany or in Alaska would have enough fuel to reach a strategic target located deeply in Russia ? Not talking about its flying escort.


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25 Sep 2010, 4:25 am

I'm not entirely convinced by your argument, but it was a good effort. And since I'm no military expert myself, I'm gonna assume there must be some good reason the US gov't. didn't/couldn't do it.



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26 Sep 2010, 10:57 pm

It would not surprise me about Oppenheimer. He was very eccentric, but I am not sure he had AS. He made the manhattan project a real pressure cooker. He wrote down goals that had to be achieved on a daily basis. He got the most out of all the scientists involved. Teller. szilard, a lot of german scientists were so pissed off at Hitlers attitude, that they came over to America to help build the bomb. It's hard to believe they kept a project that complex and vast a secret for two full years.



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14 Jan 2020, 12:39 pm

Hey Rob , this war sucks , crack this equation and you 'll cut it by 5 years and save millions of lives ! rob says sswweeeeettt ! i'll get right on it , people are dying . A short time later , boss boss , ive cracked it , we can now release all that energy in bomb form. i'd hope with his iq , he suggested lots of tests increasing very slowly from tiny but got ignored . BOOM !" I am become death , destroyer of worlds !" If you put oppenheimer in a box , he would be Schrodingers aspergic ! until you opened it he'd both a genius , fool or both . lol



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14 Jan 2020, 12:46 pm

it wasnt that kind of secret , secured in military spaces . we were sabotaging heavy water plants and stocks of the germans . we probably stole their idea



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14 Jan 2020, 2:10 pm

The OP's topic was derailed ten years ago by some subsequent posters and degenerated into something else. Learn what not to do in General Autism Forum from this example please: don't start PPR forum type discussions in forums outside PPR. It discourages the OP, annoys other members, sabotages discussion on reasonable topics, and is a morale killer. When done habitually it becomes a form of trolling. PPR belongs in PPR. And some topics don't need reviving.