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14 Jul 2010, 11:58 am

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I have never met an Emo who genuinly had any mental condition at all, they are all just melodramatic time wasters


Since you don't have access to anybody else's medical records, you have no way of knowing.


Yeah but sometimes its just obvious.



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14 Jul 2010, 12:01 pm

Excellent post LeekDuck.

I made posts related to the same subjects (fake autistics) , but I used different terms.
Here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf130616-0-30.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf130616-0-15.html


Just replace wautistics with 'aspies' and autistics with Autistics.

We should blame the vague Asperger's diagnosis for the rise of a such phenomena. Things will be better for the real autistics when they remove the Asperger from the DSM , this label has been abused/confused/misled by many.



However , I might add that not all 'wautistics' are emos, there are another typesof wautistics :
-The "Aryan aspies": those individuals believe in Aspies' supremacy and believe that "Asperger" is some form of 'evolution' and therefore them (Aspies) are some kind of evolved Home sapiens.
-The God's Chosen people: Those are creationist 'Aryan aspies', those 'aspies' believe that they were chosen by god for a some divine mission.
- The Druggies: Those individuals who were/are alcoholic or weed/drugs/s**t addicts and then they nag and wonder why they are socially and mentally screwed, and so they pick the aspie label to explain their screwed life.


And other than the wautistics, there are the Dautistics and I was one of those.....

The Dautistics stands for Delusional "autistic" , in other term, those are people who are really socially inept, extremely introvert and fit in many symptoms of Asperger described in the DSM (I fit nearly all of them) and hence they really believe that they have the condition but in reality they do not and are unaware of this. Many of self-diagnosed aspies fall in that category.

I woke up and realized that I was one when I saw real autistics in the local Autism center. I saw kids who are low functional and others who are high functionals , but both exhibits obvious unusual characteristics and behaviors, I realized then that what I thought to have (Aspegrger/HFA) I don't really have it , and what I really have has nothing to do with this serious condition (Autism in all its forms). I do have a LOAD of social/emotional/behavioral issues tho but I am certain now that Autism is not one of them.

The problem of Autism that it can't be really described in a text, any extremely introvert or schizoid or socially inept person might easily finding himself/herself fitting in the description of Asperger (Which is supposed to be a form of Autism) or even Autism in the DSM because ....words can't really explain what Autism is really like, one has to witness it first hand and to witness many cases in order to understand what is really like and what is really isn't.


There are also the IDautistics , those are Insisting Delusional Autistics , those are individuals who keep visiting psychiatrists till one of them give them an official AS diagnosis , they usually feel very happy for 'achieving' this and make threads about it.


check my pm Duck.



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14 Jul 2010, 12:12 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Excellent post LeekDuck.

I made posts related to the same subjects (fake autistics) , but I used different terms.
Here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf130616-0-30.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf130616-0-15.html


Just replace wautistics with 'aspies' and autistics with Autistics.

We should blame the vague Asperger's diagnosis for the rise of a such phenomena. Things will be better for the real autistics when they remove the Asperger from the DSM , this label has been abused/confused/misled by many.



However , I might add that not all 'wautistics' are emos, there are another typesof wautistics :
-The "Aryan aspies": those individuals believe in Aspies' supremacy and believe that "Asperger" is some form of 'evolution' and therefore them (Aspies) are some kind of evolved Home sapiens.
-The God's Chosen people: Those are creationist 'Aryan aspies', those 'aspies' believe that they were chosen by god for a some divine mission.
- The Druggies: Those individuals who were/are alcoholic or weed/drugs/sh** addicts and then they nag and wonder why they are socially and mentally screwed, and so they pick the aspie label to explain their screwed life.


And other than the wautistics, there are the Dautistics and I was one of those.....

The Dautistics stands for Delusional "autistic" , in other term, those are people who are really socially inept, extremely introvert and fit in many symptoms of Asperger described in the DSM (I fit nearly all of them) and hence they really believe that they have the condition but in reality they do not and are unaware of this. Many of self-diagnosed aspies fall in that category.

I woke up and realized that I was one when I saw real autistics in the local Autism center. I saw kids who are low functional and others who are high functionals , but both exhibits obvious unusual characteristics and behaviors, I realized then that what I thought to have 'Aspegrger/HFA' has nothing to this serious condition.

The problem of Autism that it can't be really described in a text, any extremely introvert or schizoid or socially inept person might easily finding himself/herself fitting in the description of Asperger (Which is supposed to be a form of Autism) or even Autism in the DSM because ....words can't really explain what Autism is really like, one has to witness it first hand and to witness many cases in order to understand what is really like and what is really isn't.


There are also the IDautistics , those are Insisting Delusional Autistics , those are individuals who keep visiting psychiatrists till one of them give them an official AS diagnosis , they usually feel very happy for 'achieving' this and make threads about it.


check my pm Duck.


Yeah i have realised some people believe Aspergers to be some sort of magical thing, and that Aspergers people were 'chosen by the universe' or something



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14 Jul 2010, 12:23 pm

I have to respectfully disagree with you, Mr. Boo. In 15 years, I have worked with literally thousands of individuals with ASDs, from very low functioning non-verbal folks who will never function independently to people with AS who have impairments in social functioning but do well academically and job-wise. While it would be insane to deny there are differences, do you not see any similarities? Take yourself out of the picture, and look at an AS kid having a meltdown and a more severely affected kid having a meltdown...I've seen both and there are common qualities. Look at a high-functioning autistic teenager with sensory integration dysfunction having to leave the mall because there are too many people, and then a teenager with AS who generally functions pretty well but has to leave the mall for the same reason. The concept of a spectrum is there for a reason, and it makes sense from a logical and theoretical standpoint. We don't know, exactly, how the autistic brain is different from the NT brain, but how exactly is the brain of a non-verbal low-functioning autistic person different from a HFA person's? (I assume you're willing to admit they are both autistic). Now, isn't it possible that there are even lesser degrees of whatever differences make those people not NT, and that those lesser degrees produce what we refer to as AS?

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I have to respectfully disagree with you, Mr. Boo. In 15 years, I have worked with literally thousands of individuals with ASDs, from very low functioning non-verbal folks who will never function independently to people with AS who have impairments in social functioning but do well academically and job-wise. While it would be insane to deny there are differences, do you not see any similarities? Take yourself out of the picture, and look at an AS kid having a meltdown and a more severely affected kid having a meltdown...I've seen both and there are common qualities. Look at a high-functioning autistic teenager with sensory integration dysfunction having to leave the mall because there are too many people, and then a teenager with AS who generally functions pretty well but has to leave the mall for the same reason. The concept of a spectrum is there for a reason, and it makes sense from a logical and theoretical standpoint. We don't know, exactly, how the autistic brain is different from the NT brain, but how exactly is the brain of a non-verbal low-functioning autistic person different from a HFA person's? (I assume you're willing to admit they are both autistic). Now, isn't it possible that there are even lesser degrees of whatever differences make those people not NT, and that those lesser degrees produce what we refer to as AS?

~Kate


I expressed wrongfully.

I edited this part:

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I woke up and realized that I was one when I saw real autistics in the local Autism center. I saw kids who are low functional and others who are high functionals , but both exhibits obvious unusual characteristics and behaviors, I realized then that what I thought to have (Aspegrger/HFA) I don't really have it , and what I really have has nothing to do with this serious condition (Autism in all its forms).


As you see, I am not denying the existence of HFA , and as I said , they both exhibit unusual behaviors, maybe I should have added 'common behaviors' too.

The absence of meltdown and the sensory integration dysfunction in my life is what made me realize that I am not autistic in any form or shape. I found it too unethical to remain embracing any label related to autism after finding out this.



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14 Jul 2010, 12:34 pm

Autism is described as a spectrum because, in theory, it is exactly the same condition that affects folk differently depending on other factors in the brain, the trouble is, finding out what these 'other factors' are.



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14 Jul 2010, 12:35 pm

Sorry guys but I just have to take issue with the way some people are using emo subculture as an insult.

If you've ever met some emos, you'll probably find that are regular human beings who happen to enjoy certain music and prefer certain clothes. Regular people who are sometimes happy and sometimes low, like anyone else.


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Sorry guys but I just have to take issue with the way some people are using emo subculture as an insult.

If you've ever met some emos, you'll probably find that are regular human beings who happen to enjoy certain music and prefer certain clothes. Regular people who are sometimes happy and sometimes low, like anyone else.


Im trying not to use 'Emo' as an insult, it just so happens that many of the wautistics i have met also call themselves Emo.



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I have to respectfully disagree with you, Mr. Boo. In 15 years, I have worked with literally thousands of individuals with ASDs, from very low functioning non-verbal folks who will never function independently to people with AS who have impairments in social functioning but do well academically and job-wise. While it would be insane to deny there are differences, do you not see any similarities? Take yourself out of the picture, and look at an AS kid having a meltdown and a more severely affected kid having a meltdown...I've seen both and there are common qualities. Look at a high-functioning autistic teenager with sensory integration dysfunction having to leave the mall because there are too many people, and then a teenager with AS who generally functions pretty well but has to leave the mall for the same reason. The concept of a spectrum is there for a reason, and it makes sense from a logical and theoretical standpoint. We don't know, exactly, how the autistic brain is different from the NT brain, but how exactly is the brain of a non-verbal low-functioning autistic person different from a HFA person's? (I assume you're willing to admit they are both autistic). Now, isn't it possible that there are even lesser degrees of whatever differences make those people not NT, and that those lesser degrees produce what we refer to as AS?

~Kate


I expressed wrongfully.

I edited this part:

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I woke up and realized that I was one when I saw real autistics in the local Autism center. I saw kids who are low functional and others who are high functionals , but both exhibits obvious unusual characteristics and behaviors, I realized then that what I thought to have (Aspegrger/HFA) I don't really have it , and what I really have has nothing to do with this serious condition (Autism in all its forms).


As you see, I am not denying the existence of HFA , and as I said , they both exhibit unusual behaviors, maybe I should have added 'common behaviors' too.

The absence of meltdown and the sensory integration dysfunction in my life is what made me realize that I am not autistic in any form or shape. I found it too unethical to remain embracing any label related to autism after finding out this.


OK...then maybe we don't disagree so much. I do think AS exists, though, because I've seen enough ppl with it (ppl who DO have meltdowns and sensory integration dysfunction, as well as problems with socialization/communication, but no speech delays). I personally still have major sensory integration dysfunction (still cut tags out of clothes, won't wear wool, am allergic to getting my clothes wet) and learned to control meltdowns at about age 30. I wouldn't have a problem with including them under HFA as long as the definition was broad enough to include them.

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Welcome to Wrongplanet, Leekduck.

A lot of thoughts came to mind when I was reading your post; I don't think I agree with most of your reasoning. I hope you don't find it rude for me to respond to specific sentences in the post; it helps me to think it through piece by piece.

Leekduck wrote:
OK this is starting to get on my nerves, and it sortof links in with 'self diagnosis' but not completely. I Am talking about something i call Wautism (Wannabe Autistic people). Now these people are Melodramatic, often 'emo', and undoubtedly pseudoindividualist.


It sounds like you have experiences with specific people in mind when you write this. Those are useful experiences, but it may not work to apply your conclusions to a whole category of people.

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But back to the point, Emos always pretend to have some sort of mental illness or condition and it gets on my nerves. They meet on forum's, complain that 'nobody understands them' (When everyone does). What they are going through is normal teenager stuff and they get told this. but OOHH NOOO, there too good for experiencing what other people have, they need an exuse for feeling sorry for themselfs, and demanding Symphany all the time.


I don't think it's good to be so quick to dismiss people's complaints this way. The thing is, pretty much every trait of Asperger's is something that all people experience to some degree, and from time to time. How can I really convince someone that my mind works differently from theirs if they are skeptical?
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Imaginary conversation:
"Being an Aspie means that I get worn out just by being in social situations."
"Well, that's nothing unusual-- I sometimes feel tired after going to a party."
"But sometimes just focusing on a conversation takes all my energy."
"Everyone feels awkward in a new situation; you just need to talk to people more."
"Another thing that makes it hard is that I have trouble placing names with faces."
"Oh; I'm bad with names too."
"I have a lot of trouble with executive dysfunction, too. Keeping a schedule is tough, and making decisions is exhausting."
"You should have seen how messy my room was in college! I didn't care about any of that stuff until I got a job."
"The hardest thing for me is a job interview. The fear can be almost paralyzing, to the point that I just want the interview to end, whether I get the job or not."
"Oh, everyone gets nervous at job interviews. You should read this book; it gives tips about how to project confidence."

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I remember telling myself that the things I struggled with were nothing unusual, and that I just had to try harder, but I still kept struggling. It was such a relief when I was diagnosed with Asperger's to realize that maybe it wasn't just laziness or selfishness that was making it hard for me to connect with people and become more independent.

Maybe it's true that a lot of teenagers are just struggling with normal teenager things, and when they get older, they won't struggle with them anymore. But every person is different, and it can be dangerous to lump everyone together.

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and so they just decide they suffer from the first mental disability that comes into their head. Traditionally this has been Clinical Deppression, and then you got them pretending to have Schitzophenia, OCD, Bipolar, Borderline, ive even heard some of them say they are 'sociopaths', and often they pretend to have more then one mental illness. I came across some idiot claiming to have Clinical Deppression, OCD and Bipolar deppression, clearly he was lieng since those three conditions cannot co-exist (OCD Is often accompinied by some symptoms of deppression and deppression is often the cause of OCD, but you see what i mean).


Since OCD and depression often come together, are you saying that OCD and Bipolar disorder can't coexist? Even if that's true (I don't know if it is), maybe the diagnoses came at different times or from different doctors. Maybe one of them fits better than the other. These things are just labels; there is science behind the definitions, but our understanding of them is still developing, and even then they don't apply the same way to every person.

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I have never met an Emo who genuinly had any mental condition at all, they are all just melodramatic time wasters often (However I wont judge if someone is an emo, i dont mean to offend anyone). The real danger of this trend is that it warps peoples views and knowledge on mental health, and people who do need help dont get it since nobody knows what to expect anymore. Most people with a mental illness or condition dont go around telling this to everyone.


"Emo" is also a label. I do agree that confusion about mental conditions makes it harder to help people who need it, and I don't know the best answer to that problem. It's bad to bee too loose in our definitions just as it is bad to be too rigid.

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Recently however i have realised they have started to do this with Autism, Especialy Aspergers Autism. Since there has been alot of publicity about autism in recent years, and emos love television. So the latest cool thing to feignt is Autism, Great!. I have came across many people claiming to have a 'mild form of aspergers' or 'autistic tendancys' when they clearly do not!. I find it odd that they decide to do this with autism since, unlike other popular things to fake autism is not an illness. It is something you are born and develop with, I kinda wonder why we dont then have people going around pretending to have 'mild downs syndrome' or something, then again, things like Downs are probably 'uncool' in the Emo world.


I do not believe it is possible to determine whether someone has autism or "clearly do not" just from reading what they say about themselves in an online post.

One thing that makes autism more confusing than Down syndrome is that the autistic spectrum seems to blend smoothly into what is considered "normal." There is a gray area where a trait of autism becomes more like a personality type or an individual quirk. This is one of many reasons why I don't think it makes sense to talk about "curing" autism.

Down syndrome, on the other hand, is tied to a specific genetic aberration that can be observed-- it's there or it isn't. Autism seems to be related to genetics, but not in a specific or simple way.


Oh well; I have probably gone on for too long. I want to thank you for your post, because I found it thought-provoking. I hope you didn't mind me responding. And I'm sorry that you were picked on. : (



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If I had been in high school just 3 years later then I was, I would have been called 'emo'. I had and still have legitimate issues.


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Meow101 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Meow101 wrote:
I have to respectfully disagree with you, Mr. Boo. In 15 years, I have worked with literally thousands of individuals with ASDs, from very low functioning non-verbal folks who will never function independently to people with AS who have impairments in social functioning but do well academically and job-wise. While it would be insane to deny there are differences, do you not see any similarities? Take yourself out of the picture, and look at an AS kid having a meltdown and a more severely affected kid having a meltdown...I've seen both and there are common qualities. Look at a high-functioning autistic teenager with sensory integration dysfunction having to leave the mall because there are too many people, and then a teenager with AS who generally functions pretty well but has to leave the mall for the same reason. The concept of a spectrum is there for a reason, and it makes sense from a logical and theoretical standpoint. We don't know, exactly, how the autistic brain is different from the NT brain, but how exactly is the brain of a non-verbal low-functioning autistic person different from a HFA person's? (I assume you're willing to admit they are both autistic). Now, isn't it possible that there are even lesser degrees of whatever differences make those people not NT, and that those lesser degrees produce what we refer to as AS?

~Kate


I expressed wrongfully.

I edited this part:

Quote:
I woke up and realized that I was one when I saw real autistics in the local Autism center. I saw kids who are low functional and others who are high functionals , but both exhibits obvious unusual characteristics and behaviors, I realized then that what I thought to have (Aspegrger/HFA) I don't really have it , and what I really have has nothing to do with this serious condition (Autism in all its forms).


As you see, I am not denying the existence of HFA , and as I said , they both exhibit unusual behaviors, maybe I should have added 'common behaviors' too.

The absence of meltdown and the sensory integration dysfunction in my life is what made me realize that I am not autistic in any form or shape. I found it too unethical to remain embracing any label related to autism after finding out this.


OK...then maybe we don't disagree so much. I do think AS exists, though, because I've seen enough ppl with it (ppl who DO have meltdowns and sensory integration dysfunction, as well as problems with socialization/communication, but no speech delays). I personally still have major sensory integration dysfunction (still cut tags out of clothes, won't wear wool, am allergic to getting my clothes wet) and learned to control meltdowns at about age 30. I wouldn't have a problem with including them under HFA as long as the definition was broad enough to include them.

~Kate


What is sensory integration dysfunction exactly??? by reading your description , I can relate : I do cut the tags, wool makes my body all red and makes me scratch , I am extremely allergic against dust mites (make me hysterically sneezing) and I was even prescribed to take those small blue pills (Aerius) when it gets really bad.

Meltdown....that the only thing that I never understood what really is and what it's really like.



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Welcome to Wrongplanet, Leekduck.

A lot of thoughts came to mind when I was reading your post; I don't think I agree with most of your reasoning. I hope you don't find it rude for me to respond to specific sentences in the post; it helps me to think it through piece by piece.

Leekduck wrote:
OK this is starting to get on my nerves, and it sortof links in with 'self diagnosis' but not completely. I Am talking about something i call Wautism (Wannabe Autistic people). Now these people are Melodramatic, often 'emo', and undoubtedly pseudoindividualist.


It sounds like you have experiences with specific people in mind when you write this. Those are useful experiences, but it may not work to apply your conclusions to a whole category of people.

Quote:
But back to the point, Emos always pretend to have some sort of mental illness or condition and it gets on my nerves. They meet on forum's, complain that 'nobody understands them' (When everyone does). What they are going through is normal teenager stuff and they get told this. but OOHH NOOO, there too good for experiencing what other people have, they need an exuse for feeling sorry for themselfs, and demanding Symphany all the time.


I don't think it's good to be so quick to dismiss people's complaints this way. The thing is, pretty much every trait of Asperger's is something that all people experience to some degree, and from time to time. How can I really convince someone that my mind works differently from theirs if they are skeptical?
------------
Imaginary conversation:
"Being an Aspie means that I get worn out just by being in social situations."
"Well, that's nothing unusual-- I sometimes feel tired after going to a party."
"But sometimes just focusing on a conversation takes all my energy."
"Everyone feels awkward in a new situation; you just need to talk to people more."
"Another thing that makes it hard is that I have trouble placing names with faces."
"Oh; I'm bad with names too."
"I have a lot of trouble with executive dysfunction, too. Keeping a schedule is tough, and making decisions is exhausting."
"You should have seen how messy my room was in college! I didn't care about any of that stuff until I got a job."
"The hardest thing for me is a job interview. The fear can be almost paralyzing, to the point that I just want the interview to end, whether I get the job or not."
"Oh, everyone gets nervous at job interviews. You should read this book; it gives tips about how to project confidence."

-----------
I remember telling myself that the things I struggled with were nothing unusual, and that I just had to try harder, but I still kept struggling. It was such a relief when I was diagnosed with Asperger's to realize that maybe it wasn't just laziness or selfishness that was making it hard for me to connect with people and become more independent.

Maybe it's true that a lot of teenagers are just struggling with normal teenager things, and when they get older, they won't struggle with them anymore. But every person is different, and it can be dangerous to lump everyone together.

Quote:
and so they just decide they suffer from the first mental disability that comes into their head. Traditionally this has been Clinical Deppression, and then you got them pretending to have Schitzophenia, OCD, Bipolar, Borderline, ive even heard some of them say they are 'sociopaths', and often they pretend to have more then one mental illness. I came across some idiot claiming to have Clinical Deppression, OCD and Bipolar deppression, clearly he was lieng since those three conditions cannot co-exist (OCD Is often accompinied by some symptoms of deppression and deppression is often the cause of OCD, but you see what i mean).


Since OCD and depression often come together, are you saying that OCD and Bipolar disorder can't coexist? Even if that's true (I don't know if it is), maybe the diagnoses came at different times or from different doctors. Maybe one of them fits better than the other. These things are just labels; there is science behind the definitions, but our understanding of them is still developing, and even then they don't apply the same way to every person.

Quote:
I have never met an Emo who genuinly had any mental condition at all, they are all just melodramatic time wasters often (However I wont judge if someone is an emo, i dont mean to offend anyone). The real danger of this trend is that it warps peoples views and knowledge on mental health, and people who do need help dont get it since nobody knows what to expect anymore. Most people with a mental illness or condition dont go around telling this to everyone.


"Emo" is also a label. I do agree that confusion about mental conditions makes it harder to help people who need it, and I don't know the best answer to that problem. It's bad to bee too loose in our definitions just as it is bad to be too rigid.

Quote:
Recently however i have realised they have started to do this with Autism, Especialy Aspergers Autism. Since there has been alot of publicity about autism in recent years, and emos love television. So the latest cool thing to feignt is Autism, Great!. I have came across many people claiming to have a 'mild form of aspergers' or 'autistic tendancys' when they clearly do not!. I find it odd that they decide to do this with autism since, unlike other popular things to fake autism is not an illness. It is something you are born and develop with, I kinda wonder why we dont then have people going around pretending to have 'mild downs syndrome' or something, then again, things like Downs are probably 'uncool' in the Emo world.


I do not believe it is possible to determine whether someone has autism or "clearly do not" just from reading what they say about themselves in an online post.

One thing that makes autism more confusing than Down syndrome is that the autistic spectrum seems to blend smoothly into what is considered "normal." There is a gray area where a trait of autism becomes more like a personality type or an individual quirk. This is one of many reasons why I don't think it makes sense to talk about "curing" autism.

Down syndrome, on the other hand, is tied to a specific genetic aberration that can be observed-- it's there or it isn't. Autism seems to be related to genetics, but not in a specific or simple way.


Oh well; I have probably gone on for too long. I want to thank you for your post, because I found it thought-provoking. I hope you didn't mind me responding. And I'm sorry that you were picked on. : (



I Did actualy read all that, thanks.

I do generalise alot but It is something im trying not to do :), and I am not saying that just because someone is 'emo' means they are perfectly normal.



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14 Jul 2010, 1:07 pm

Leekduck, I'm glad you've chosen to ignore those whose behaviour you find offensive, it's probably the best strategy. But keep in mind that there are a lot of annoying, self-centred people out there who actually do need some sort of help, and moreover, it would benefit everybody if they got it. Even if you knew their particular life situation sucked (e.g. abusive or neglectful parents), it's quite likely you'd still find it hard to like them or even sympathize with them a little. It might benefit you to ask yourself how much of that is because of you and how much them. You're on the autism spectrum, which might make it hard for you to give a s**t or to even try to put yourself in their shoes.
Also, you're a teen, and this is a time of life when you and your peers tend to hide who you really are, partly because who you are or appear to be to yourself or others changes pretty quickly at this stage. It's easy to attack others while going on the defensive.

At any rate, take some deep breaths when you need to and remember that adolescence doesn't last forever, which is a really good thing. :-)



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14 Jul 2010, 1:13 pm

fermentedketchup wrote:

At any rate, take some deep breaths when you need to and remember that adolescence doesn't last forever, which is a really good thing. :-)


I was told the same. Partly true but partly false too , the effects of my childhood/adolescence are still haunting my soul till to this day (I am 28 ).