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18 Jul 2010, 5:52 pm

anbuend's blog wrote:
Some examples of how a person could actually meet these criteria:

* Fitting the criteria for Asperger’s, and not the criteria for autism, with the exception that the person had delayed language early in life.
* Fitting the criteria for Asperger’s, and not the criteria for autism, with the exception that the person has a lower IQ than the cutoff for Asperger’s.
* Fitting the criteria for Asperger’s, and not the criteria for autism, with the exception that the person had a delay in self-help skills early in life.
* (For the DSM-IV, but not the DSM-IV-TR.) Meeting the social criteria of autism alone, without the other criteria.
* (For the DSM-IV, but not the DSM-IV-TR.) Meeting the language criteria of autism alone, without the other criteria.
* (For the DSM-IV, but not the DSM-IV-TR.) Meeting the repetitive behavior criteria of autism alone, without the other criteria.
* Meeting the social and language criteria for autism, but not meeting the repetitive behavior criteria. (Meeting social and repetitive behavior without language is mostly covered by Asperger’s.)
* Having “a few autistic traits”.
* Seeming autistic, but having another condition going on (such as cerebral palsy or intellectual disability) that makes it hard for a person to do enough things to fulfill the autism criteria.
* Meeting the criteria for some other kind of autism, but not quite enough (in number) of the criteria.
* Meeting the criteria solidly in one category, but ambiguously in one or more of the other categories.
* Meeting the criteria, but ambiguously in all categories.
* Meeting the criteria, but meeting them (or some of them) later than the cutoffs for other things.


Callista--Based on this, it seems like there's a lot that can fall under PDD-NOS. Some seem to be cases of drawing features from different types of ASDs, others seem to be cases of meeting some criteria and not others. The latter section of this post is where I think some of us are getting the idea that those who don't fit all of the AS criteria might fit here, as well as those who have more severe effects in some areas.


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18 Jul 2010, 5:55 pm

Callista wrote:
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It means Asperger's Syndrome Extra Light. It means that you're more NT, than AS, but you have enough traits, to warrant the diagnosis, that you've been given.
Augggh! No! No, it does not mean "extra light"!

Go back to the first page, read anbuend's blog post or read my explanation. PDD-NOS is a miscellaneous "atypical autism" category that has nothing to do with being milder than anything else.


Callista's right. It just means that you have autistic traits, but that you're hard to categorize into any specific disorder. For some people, the PDD-NOS diagnosis means Asperger's extra light, for another person it could mean that they're in between classic autism and Asperger's in terms of severity, and for others it could mean that the people are too severe to be able to accurately assess.



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18 Jul 2010, 6:03 pm

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Callista--Based on this, it seems like there's a lot that can fall under PDD-NOS. Some seem to be cases of drawing features from different types of ASDs, others seem to be cases of meeting some criteria and not others. The latter section of this post is where I think some of us are getting the idea that those who don't fit all of the AS criteria might fit here, as well as those who have more severe effects in some areas.
Yes; people with clinical impairment but without enough criteria to meet the AS diagnosis do end up in the PDD-NOS box. But they are just one group of many that do. Like this--"all oranges are fruits; not all fruits are oranges." (The not-enough-traits group would be like the oranges in the analogy. Say you had descriptions for just strawberries, apples, and grapes, and had to call everything else "fruit-NOS", whether that meant tiny little blueberries or gigantic watermelons. It's like that.) Plus, having fewer traits is by no means the same as having milder impairment.


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18 Jul 2010, 6:04 pm

That makes sense when you put it that way...that there could be different degrees of impairment AND different distributions of traits, all under the PDD-NOS category. Have I got it now? :)


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18 Jul 2010, 6:05 pm

Yep. PDD-NOS is the most diverse category of an extremely diverse disorder, just because it's the category where they put everything that doesn't fit in any other.


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21 Aug 2010, 3:55 pm

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Can anyone explain what this means, because I swear that on my papers this was listed and I heard "borderline" during the conversation with the doc and my mother...

Does it means that I show some but not all symptoms? That I pass as half normal and half autistic?


I am diagnosed with PDD-NOS autism for me my examiner said I am perfectly in between classic and Asperger autism. I fit the criteria for classic autism perfectly but I am a bit to verbally strong? but the speech delay disqualified me for Aspergers. So I am in the middle.


Like ASdogGeek here, I was diagnosed with PDD-NOS and the person who diagnosed me said in my case I didn't fit the criteria for an Autistic disorder. By what she said it looks like I'm also in the middle between Autism and Aspergers. My parents say that I do have Aspergers right now because of my behavior patterns are becoming more similar in description, but we never considered a re-diagnosis. By you question, you would more likely pass as autistic then normal. PDD-NOS is one of the 5 categories of ASD, so it means that you're an autistic, but you're not identified in any of the four characters. It may change over time and you might be identified with Aspergers or Autism depending on what your symptoms are. Not every professional or parent agrees with each other and you might get something different. in their own perspective. The Aspie quiz on here would also help you if you're still confused. If you get half Aspie or half NT, you're not the only one who's got it. Others on this site got it too. :wink:


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21 Aug 2010, 4:55 pm

I personally think I may fall more into the PDD-NOS category now. I'm somewhat capable of social interaction on a superficial level, but I still have many underlying difficulties with social and sensitivity issues.
My younger bro is officially diagnosed PDD-NOS but he got that when he was much younger.


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