Autistics Given Castration Drug--not cool!

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03 Aug 2010, 9:50 pm

If they have been chemically 'castrated,' does that destroy their ability to have children? And I don't mean just impotence, but actual 'never be able to make sperm' kind of thing. :scratch:

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03 Aug 2010, 9:52 pm

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If they have been chemically 'castrated,' does that destroy their ability to have children? And I don't mean just impotence, but actual 'never be able to make sperm' kind of thing. :scratch:

yeah, means no children. It sterilizes them with chemicals.

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03 Aug 2010, 9:58 pm

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They ought to use it on themselves first, see if it cures their stupidity . . . or at least end the stupid peoples ability to reproduce.

Especially Jenny McCarthy and the staff of Autism Speaks.

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03 Aug 2010, 9:59 pm

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Metalwolf wrote:

If they have been chemically 'castrated,' does that destroy their ability to have children? And I don't mean just impotence, but actual 'never be able to make sperm' kind of thing. :scratch:

yeah, means no children. It sterilizes them with chemicals.

It feels like the mothers have mentally 'dehumanized' their offspring enough in that they can justify this sort of thing.

I wonder if they ever stopped to ask their kid why he gets so upset?

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03 Aug 2010, 10:01 pm

hell no this is not fare, trying to fix something thats not broken is bad but this takes it.
why would somebody give their child medicine that can do more harm then good as time go by.
and the whole reproducing thing this remind me of the pillow angel story.
heres the link :arrow: pilliow angel

i share this because it was a blog a women wrote who was just like her in she improved and went to college all this is she have CP

Dr. Douglas Diekema wrote

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"It was like seeing a baby in a much larger body,"

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She would never talk, never walk, and was dependent on her parents to meet all her needs. Her cognitive function was the equivalent of that of an infant, unlikely to ever change."

their we go doc, with the if you don't talk you must still have an infant brain :roll:

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03 Aug 2010, 10:02 pm

I'd like to line up those ex-bullies up, who want to give their precious children that shot, and give them the shot. How about all bullies are given that shot, when they're children?

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03 Aug 2010, 10:02 pm

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If they have been chemically 'castrated,' does that destroy their ability to have children? And I don't mean just impotence, but actual 'never be able to make sperm' kind of thing. :scratch:

yeah, means no children. It sterilizes them with chemicals.

It feels like the mothers have mentally 'dehumanized' their offspring enough in that they can justify this sort of thing.

I wonder if they ever stopped to ask their kid why he gets so upset?

and the benefits of the drug aren't even proven; no real testing. i think they're just trying to stop people with disorders from being able to reproduce.

& the kids prolly wouldn't even know to be upset til they're older though and can actually fully understand what's really been done to them, and all that it means.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:04 pm

Seanmw wrote:

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Seanmw wrote:

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If they have been chemically 'castrated,' does that destroy their ability to have children? And I don't mean just impotence, but actual 'never be able to make sperm' kind of thing. :scratch:

yeah, means no children. It sterilizes them with chemicals.

It feels like the mothers have mentally 'dehumanized' their offspring enough in that they can justify this sort of thing.

I wonder if they ever stopped to ask their kid why he gets so upset?

Those kids will be pretty upset, and they will really hate their parents, for the rest of their lives.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:05 pm

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Yeah, and they've been at it for a while (at least a year, I think). At least Baron-Cohen (the "autism is extreme mail brain" theory guy) has come out and publicly spoken against it.:

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Simon Baron-Cohen, a professor of developmental psychopathology at the University of Cambridge in England and director of the Autism Research Center in Cambridge, said it is irresponsible to treat autistic children with Lupron.

"The idea of using it with vulnerable children with autism, who do not have a life-threatening disease and pose no danger to anyone, without a careful trial to determine the unwanted side effects or indeed any benefits, fills me with horror," he said.

There's a long Chicago Tribune article about it here:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009 ... n-protocol

if the benefits aren't even established, then why is this even legal. The only thing it's "proven" to do is damage.

The thing is doctors can legally write prescriptions for any off-label use they please. IIRC 60% of prescriptions are written for off-label use. So it's not illegal. Uneththical and unsafe, yes, but not illegal. I guess the hope was that anyone who could get a medical degree would have enough sense and responsibility not to do something crazy, but apparently that's not always the case.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:09 pm

What I don't get, is what immediately jumps out to me on the page:

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"A Boca Raton mother who just put her 18-year-old son on the drug said it seems to help. "

18-year-old son? Surely an 18-year-old knows what castration is (or, heck, could ask) and to willingly accept it anyways?

Either that, or it's their parent forcing that...

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03 Aug 2010, 10:12 pm

Well with the American government like this... here Picture
I doubt anything is going to be changed. We need to fight for our rights and DEMAND a stop to this.
"The daily dose is 10 times the amount American doctors use to treat precocious puberty."
Simply wrong and unethical.

I can't believe people believe this BS that comes from people who wish to take their money.

Neither Eisenstein nor the Geiers dispute that what they are doing amounts to chemical castration.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:12 pm

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What I don't get, is what immediately jumps out to me on the page:

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"A Boca Raton mother who just put her 18-year-old son on the drug said it seems to help. "

18-year-old son? Surely an 18-year-old knows what castration is (or, heck, could ask) and to willingly accept it anyways?

Either that, or it's their parent forcing that...

Seem to help, with what? His wonderful and unusual obsessions?

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03 Aug 2010, 10:21 pm

This is disgusting, I agree with those who have said the parents who are doing this to their children should be forcibly injected with it.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:22 pm

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luckily i never took any medicine for precocious puberty because i had this. ( age 7)
i guess i was one of the lucky ones.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:22 pm

If its actual castration I see it as a violation of human rights.

I don't see how this is any better than cutting a womans womb out against her will. Afterall, poor child has no choice.

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03 Aug 2010, 10:29 pm

Lupron works by making a part of the pituitary gland shut down. That causes chemical signals (trophic hormones) not to be sent to the gonads, which causes the gonads to stop making testosterone. The effect in adults isn't permanent, but I don't know if anyone knows what it will do to a pre-pubertal child.

In an adult if the gonads are shut down for a long time they can atrophy and and sterility can result. Again, in a child, I don't know if anyone knows how the drug impacts fertility.

And there could be issues of bone density, also.

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