best dream escape country to move to?

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That is an easy one. New zealand. Mainly for my narrow primary interest/obsession: flyfishing.

Does anyone know what country would be good for an INTP/INTJ?

I'm planning to move to London to start with, but I've always had the vague notion of expatriating myself for a while.

Nice avatar.......I just finished reading the 2nd book and saw the 1st movie w/ subtitles. What is INTJ? ISFJ? Sweden and Norway rank high on my list...I have met people from there and they seemed really laid back and cool.

I´d love to move to ireland.

I stayed there for 9 months and aia just loved the placed,

Most people are nice, beautiful landscapes, I just love it.

The only issue I have with Ireland is the rain but I can deal with it.

I want to go to England because a lot of my favorite films take place there, and a couple of my favorite actors and actresses are from there.

However, my mom has actually been there and she says I wouldn't like it very much. (I personally think she was discouraging me from going because my sister lives there and my mom misses her terribly.) Anyway my mom says I shouldn't go to foreign countries in general because here in America I can be an individual, whereas in other countries there is more pressure to conform. Feel free to debate her on that point if you wish.

Since I'm already in Sweden I can't go there...

I've been fortunate to have traveled pretty widely. I'm 44 this year, and have gotten to do a lot in life compared to what one would expect of an Aspy.

New Zealand was awesome--loved the people who I met and hung out with. Actually felt "normal" for once in my life.

Thailand and Laos are awesome--if you want to have that "alone and invisible in the world" kind of experience.

As has already been pointed, out, though, American culture and the values that attend it are so pervasive that it is getting increasingly difficult to get away from many of the things that can make life so miserable for us as Aspies (the whole mandatory extroversion thing, consumerism, etc).

I used to believe that what I really wanted/craved was wilderness....but after living/working in Alaska for the last 6 years I can tell you that the wilderness is fine, but the vast majority of the people you will find living in Alaska are most certainly NOT the kinds of people you will feel any kind of kinship with (unless you are are an angry bitter person with addictive personality tendencies who hates everything that s/he doesn't understand...or a right wing religious lunatic...would you like for me to go on?

Anyhow, the wilderness is awesome up here....but....for the most part, the people are messed up. They're largely NT, but still messed up...trust me, or not, you'll see if you come up here for any length of time. Alaska is an American myth---people don't leave here because it's hard or rugged, they leave here because of how scary the people are. Remember--Alaska is the state where Sarah Palin came from and is where she was elected governor!

Anyhow....I'm a bad American, I know, because I don't subscribe to the "America is the greatest country on Earth" crap that the powers that be try to drown us in from birth forward here. There are many equally beautiful and significantly wiser/more sensible nations on the earth. Yes, we're all individuals, blah blah blah...but...there is such a thing as national character....and while we've got some great little "pools" in America, there are definitely other lakes/ponds out there worthy of our consideration.

I'll shut up now...

Oh, no, I haven't been to Ireland. My teacher was, and she showed me pictures. It looks like a beautiful place.

Don't see why this is in autism discussion...

But anyways, I'd move to Monaco.

I love America because it is my home. It is where I am ok and it is gi-normous connected by interstates with every exit I can get a soda and some m & ms. It is different and the same no matter where you go. I don't think it is the best place in the world but it is where I belong and where I want to be.

Depends what you like.

You seem to like spectacularly beautiful natural settings in temperate climates, so your selection scores 100%

According to my book, there are no countries with a INTP or INTJ culture. What else would be a good fit, I'm not sure but have the suspicion that introverted countries are better. But then again, you could be happy in a country with a subculture that is suitable. The English are ESTJ like America, but less extraverted and a bit more balanced on thinking and feeling. I've only passed through London a few times but I've lived in Scotland and didn't like it as much as Sweden. It felt less accepting of the LGBT community which was more underground. Glasgow's probably a little different than London though.


Thanks. Seemed an appropriate choice. These are Myers-Briggs Type Indicators (MBTI) of personality. INTJ is Introverted Intuition plus Extraverted Thinking with a preference for Judging over Perceiving. ISFJ is Introverted Sensing plus Extraverted Feeling with a preference for Judging. I've only been to Oslo once (to visit some other cousins) but I've had Swedish friends who moved from Stockholm to Oslo and said that Oslo was more laid back than Stockholm. Of course, that's the capitals and other parts of the country can vary.

With there being no country that's INTJ and so many of us being that type, I wonder what it would be like if we could all pool our money and buy some deserted island, move there, and declare a new country. What would we call it? Spectrumvania? The Duchy of Spectrumstein?

What's a good country for INFP/INFJ people? (me)

There are no INFJ countries but for INFP there's Nepal and Burma. Just because your type matches a country's doesn't mean you'll like it there since there are so many other factors, but at least it may be a way to narrow the search. If nothing else, something interesting to read about.

Part of me kinda wants to live in a small desert town out west, but aside from the humidity, I like where I am.

I thought I'd elaborate some on my previous statements. The MBTI types can be broken down into subsets (facet scales). There are 5 facets for each I, E, N, S, etc. So while two countries or a country and a person could have the same type (e.g. ISFJ), they may have different facets. MBTI describes mental processes which are hard-wired from birth. Another way to look at a country's culture are Geert Hofstede's dimensions, which describe values that individuals can learn. A culture tells you which mental processes and values are rewarded. So besides the appeal of the climate and beauty of a place, it can be challenging to find the best fit for long term adaptation.

Can you tell this (partly cultural-anthropology and social psychology) is related to my special interest of Archaeology, my career of the past 10 years? I'll be quiet now.