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30 Aug 2010, 9:00 pm

AdmiralCrunch wrote:
Willard wrote:
All part of the overwhelming sensory stimuli problem.


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Could it be that most of us have a hard time "reading" facial expressions and emotions and that there is really no point in it? Just a thought.


Both good points, and I'd like to add to the above. But rather than add my usual long winded techno-orgiastic rant, I'd rather answer the OPs question with a question of my own:
Did you ever notice that when anyone, even NTs, try to performing intellectual tasks, such as multiplying multi-digit numbers or say the alphabet backwards, they always look away from your face?


Not only have I noticed this, but this is my main tactic when I am having a conversation. I probably makes me look odd, but it actually helps me put together what I want to say. If I don't do this, my eyes tend to dart around and I look a bit crazed.



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30 Aug 2010, 9:05 pm

AdmiralCrunch wrote:
But rather than add my usual long winded techno-orgiastic rant, I'd rather answer the OPs question with a question of my own:
Did you ever notice that when anyone, even NTs, try to performing intellectual tasks, such as multiplying multi-digit numbers or say the alphabet backwards, they always look away from your face?


That suggests to me that the difficulty with eye contact may relate to people on the spectrum having a more intellectual way of thinking, over all, compared to most folks.


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30 Aug 2010, 10:34 pm

When I was a kid, it just plain didn't occur to me to look people in the eye. When my mom got on my ass about it (and maybe its because she was such a c**t about it, always pointing at her eyes and glaring), I learned how unnerving eye contact is, Now I'm back to not caring.


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30 Aug 2010, 11:52 pm

Hmm the eyes thing is interesting.

I find the eye to be a very complicated and distracting thing. It moves around a lot and has many different parts that move independently of one another. (try counting the parts of an eye one day). People also wear makeup around their eyes and this is very distracting because the makeup is often coloured, or reflective, or smudged, or or or...

I find that if I want to listen to someone properly I must watch their mouth as they talk. Then if I need to respond it helps if I can look at a blank surface/wall and talk as I look at that. I also have to be careful not to become distracted by all of the seperate parts of their mouth.

I think that these aspects are based on sensory issues.

Another aspect that I have noticed, and that others have mentioned already, is the social/animal aspect. If someone looks directly into my eyes for more than a few moments, I assume that they are being aggressive, or have just made a joke and want to see if I think it is funny.

I realise that many people consider "gazing together", intimacy. I don't consider the eyes to be the portal to the soul. To me, the chest is more like where the person "is".

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31 Aug 2010, 8:33 am

I believe that most people on the spectrum aren't able to make eye contact due to sensory issues. Being on the spectrum myself, it overloads me if I look somebody in the eye for more than two or three seconds.



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31 Aug 2010, 2:09 pm

Mysty wrote:
That suggests to me that the difficulty with eye contact may relate to people on the spectrum having a more intellectual way of thinking, over all, compared to most folks.

Parlay!


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