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Have you slayed a therapist?
Yes. It was a need fulfilled; a duty or calling. 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
No. Therapists I've encoutered are all sterling.....really. 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Therapist Slaying?? Like with a wooden stake & a silver DSM? 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
I'm considering the option. Or maybe hiring an exorcist (same thing) 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
What....? 21%  21%  [ 11 ]
I've at least educated mine as to ASD 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
No, but I bring incense to sessions. Just in case. 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 53

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14 Sep 2010, 9:49 pm

I've had therapy multiple times (like >15 therapists), usually for depression because I get very depressed when my life gets screwed up by the AS...although I've only known it's the AS recently. Most of the therapists didn't know what to do with me and so didn't last very long. I've had two, though, who were very good, one back in the mid-90s and the one I'm seeing now (of course, this time round I looked for one who knew something about AS).

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15 Sep 2010, 8:51 am

With certainty, there are good therapist who operate proficiently.

I have encountered some frightening individuals, unfortunately, and I've experienced therapeutic/medical abuse - two practitioners were fired. In all sincerity, this sort of abuse is horrendous, and, I've come to learn, Aspies are prone. I almost do not want to say aloud, but, since we are amongst friends, I will. Especially since what happened to me should NEVER happen to any individual - ever.

I met a female counsellor who was to do intake. BTW, I present rather conservatively and I am very considerate/shy. I am heterosexual and very feminine in appearance. This scary female took my email address, which is fairly normal (so I thought), maybe as contact information. Then......she began sending me frightening emails, pictures, and with sexual overtones. I did not respond, except I plainly stated I have NO interest, at all. She knew my address, of course. At ~ 9 pm I received an unexpected phone call - she was a local bar less than one block from my apartment (she said, "I know where you live"). She asked me for sex. She actually ordered a drink from the bartender, holding the phone down and asked me wait a moment. I turned her in, showed those sick pictures/emails - the police were called. I also posted her profile with all other agencies in town and state.

Within weeks I had a male therapist (same community) telephone me (! - that's a no-no!), again in the late evening, and was masturbating, wanting to "chat." I almost could not speak - at all. I was then frightened. This one got away with it. However, he was tagged for insurance fraud (my case).

A public health nurse from Hades - sick. Painfully bigoted woman and she nearly ended my life. I reported her to the State. She's done.

The worst was a female counsellor (I fired her quickly though - she was the 1st) - she's no longer employed. She abused me and said (quote), "Do you want to live in the Autistic world, or the real world?" She pulled my hair and made me cry, watching. I tried to shoot myself in the heart (one of the worst experiences of my life, ever) and had a seizure associated with meltdown. She not only affected my life, she nearly ended it. I fight and I fight hard. Never will I let another be hurt in this way. I had become the Therapist Slayer.

This means I fight and I fight hard. If any neuro/psych is evil (met them) they get a written torrent from me. And I don't stop. I call 911. I end careers.

I do not mean for this to seem...terrible? I am kind/gentle, but I've met the "other side" and I fight hard. I have no qualms, at all, about prosecuting sex offenders and medical/therapeutic abusers.

Now, I'd never see one (plus, I do not need). However, as of late (last 1-2 years or so), they ONLY see me if they (1) take a urine sample for lab analysis, and (2) agree to a background check. They do adhere to my stipulations, or I do not sign paper. I can/will withhold payment and I have emergency services on speed-dial. I've been advised, by the police and others, to carry Mace. Not kidding. Therapists are potential violators and will be treated as such. I make them sign a form (they do) where I see their hands ON THEIR DESK at all times. I told one supervisor her (late) employee needs a short chain and a muzzle. Met the hellions.

I gave on a written test (she failed, I fired her - no appt. with the Therapist Slayer). She was unsure about taking the test (that's OK) but she did - I wrote - "You will take this test - then I will score your answers ..... "or it will be your new office wallpaper." She did; I had fired her colleague. I am tough.

Seriously, NEVER in my life have I met any individuals as scary as certain neuro/psych (un)professsionals and it's my duty, my calling, to cull out the bad.

They will be held accountable!


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15 Sep 2010, 9:02 am

My therapist told my parents he gives up on me. So I'm waiting to call him and give him a good old chat on how to break news to someone that they are ret*d. Like don't talk of how your life sucks and all you do is read books alone or how you have 3 friends only and maybe I'll add a bit about telling someone "don't worry you're not autistic. You just have AS".



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15 Sep 2010, 9:05 am

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My therapist told my parents he gives up on me. So I'm waiting to call him and give him a good old chat on how to break news to someone that they are ret*d. Like don't talk of how your life sucks and all you do is read books alone or how you have 3 friends only and maybe I'll add a bit about telling someone "don't worry you're not autistic. You just have AS".



Another one slayed. Bad behaviour, psych. :shameonyou: And I'm telling.


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15 Sep 2010, 11:41 am

My experiences pale compared to yours LabPet, but are more than horrific to me. Maybe in time I can say a few things about it. Even the small things are so traumatic to me I have much trouble talking about it. The whole system is bonkers, as far as I can tell. And I am like you in demeanor, precisely. Mild, timid, feminine, small, very quiet. A whole team, maybe 7 or 8 people (nurses?) charged and cornered me, pulled me into a room and made me strip from my clothing, down to my under garments...I can't talk about it without shaking so I won't. The whole scene was really traumatizing and horrific to me. I begged them to stop... sobbing, literally traumatized, desperately, through tears and they wouldn't. All that because I had walked down a long hall and kicked (rather mildly) a metal casing on a radiator, because I was lied to about being placed on a locked ward when I was specifically promised otherwise before I signed their paper. I was terrified of hospitals, and locked wards in particular, because of an earlier trauma, and this is what they did to me for expressing my anger and frustration in the only way I knew how and was able to.

I have had nothing but bad experiences with therapists, as well. Maybe over time I can highlight the bizarre kinds of things that have been said to me. It's only a wonder I have any sanity left at the hands of these lunatics we call mental health professionals. I'm angry, finally, but it has taken me a very long time to get to that place and it's a place I never wanted to end up. They also blame the victim and I'm nearly helpless to defend myself because of my communication problems and barriers and earlier prior traumas that also make that very difficult. I was finally able to file two complaints back to back but writing them threw me into severe PTSD symptoms. I was able to get through it and submit the complaints but it was extremely difficult. It's very hard to even make reference to. One was reprimanded and the other was put on probation for a year and that is only the two most offensive experiences that I couldn't accept had happened to me and I was able to push through all the challenges to write out and file the complaints. This was before I was even diagnosed. I think they can see the vulnerability, the timidness, and they take advantage and even do harm. I don't understand it. I never will.

I'm proud you are able to take a stand and do what you can to expose these kinds of people for who they are. The average person who has never been through anything like it would likely be in disbelief, so there are many more obstacles out there, to start with.



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15 Sep 2010, 12:02 pm

The only thing they really punish is sexual abuse, assault or misconduct and the first case I reported did involve that when I was very young but the abuse altogether was very manipulative in nature and went on for many years so when I finally reported, once I had understood what had happened to me, they were protected under the statute of limitations. I believe if I had been able to word it better, in that I hadn't understood what was happening to me and had also emphasized my disability status, perhaps she would have received more than a mere reprimand. This person also abducted and assaulted me during transport early on and ruptured two discs in my cervical spine and went on to become a psychotherapist and used her so-called experience with me to set up a private practice as a psychotherapist without a license or degree. I have much pain to this day, in my neck alone, with the degeneration of bone on bone. It's ridiculous what I have been through. This complaint which was the first was over 100 pages long. The sexual abuse was very short lived because I didn't take to it and I was then manipulated and abducted so I wouldn't tell the authorities at the children's home where I had lived but I was naive and didn't understand what was happening to me until too many years later to do much about it but I at least did what I could when I was finally able to. This person successfully manipulated and mentally abused me that way for a total of 20 years. If this were an isolated case that would be different but all my experiences with the mental health system has been so bizarre I have finally given up on trying to seek any sort of support or assistance with the mountain of problems I now have.



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15 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm

I am so sorry, Meadow....if I could, I'd slay them for you. I know it can hurt.

However, I no longer need/want any sort of neuro/psych professional - it's over. Quiet and still. During that time I became very very keen and began to trump them. I've written legal letters/documents, drafted myself, that are professionally polished; condemnations. Then, something happened - - I became acutely good at Therapist Slaying. I realized I can slay; take their career and essentially shatter them. I've done it. I am quiet/kind - but when I know of a therapist that "misbehaves," and they can, then I consider that a double offense since they are in a position of authority and trust. I am, or had been, very trusting; no more. That part of me is dead and they killed it. I became intensely powerful over them.

I don't mean for this to seem....odd (?) but I truly feel like Buffy the Vampire Slayer in that it became a calling. Might sound strange, but near the "end of my reign" I actually would attempt to make an appt. and almost hope they'd trangress; then I'd strike. I am quite proud of my distinction and they know it. Importantly, they deserved it. I delivered that justice. Now I am stronger! Not how "they" may have anticipated though 8)

I've even sort-of played with them....they know it. I mildly flirt with one neurologist and he's pandered down. Why not? They play it, so can the Lab Pet (alter ego - the Therapist Slayer). I am near my PhD (neuroscience) - somewhat gratifying to know I know more than those bossy know-it-all offenders.

My last one was the best! Very kind - NOT like the others - I had PTSD from medical abuse. I began signing ALL medical forms with "The Therapist Slayer" and it's no secret. I've signed into offices (i.e., neurologist) as The Therapist Slayer. :D


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15 Sep 2010, 12:25 pm

Well, good for you. I'm glad you have the resources for the "fight". I sure don't. I was done in long before any further abuses at the hand of the system took place. It's just unfortunate for me this had to take place too. Gone, bye.

Take care..



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15 Sep 2010, 12:53 pm

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Well, good for you. I'm glad you have the resources for the "fight". I sure don't. I was done in long before any further abuses at the hand of the system took place. It's just unfortunate for me this had to take place too. Gone, bye.

Take care..


Meadow - you are so strong & inspirational. I admire you do better-than-well, despite your circumstances.....I'm just sorry you were so hurt. But you're OK now, and stronger than you know.

If I can reveal - having a sense of humour is an asset :D Although what has happened is atrocious, we all can triumph like Buffy - even make it a conquest...sort-of. We will be all right and Aspies are strong and resourceful no matter what.


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15 Sep 2010, 1:00 pm

LabPet wrote:
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Well, good for you. I'm glad you have the resources for the "fight". I sure don't. I was done in long before any further abuses at the hand of the system took place. It's just unfortunate for me this had to take place too. Gone, bye.

Take care..


Meadow - you are so strong & inspirational. I admire you do better-than-well, despite your circumstances.....I'm just sorry you were so hurt. But you're OK now, and stronger than you know.

If I can reveal - having a sense of humour is an asset :D Although what has happened is atrocious, we all can triumph like Buffy - even make it a conquest...sort-of. We will be all right and Aspies are strong and resourceful no matter what.


You are so right, and I admire your determination. I only wish I could be more proactive as you, but I am certainly no longer susceptible to further victimization. Being victimized, even once, is VERY difficult in too many ways and not a trivial matter by any means.

Take care :)



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15 Sep 2010, 1:03 pm

I only wish I didn't talked about it. Now I'm depressed, which only makes me :evil:.



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15 Sep 2010, 2:24 pm

Feat of the Therapist Slayer

It's been done....I sent this video clip (below) to two "the rapists" :twisted: It went over quite well, considering....one's in drug rehab. On a personal note, I found drug use repugnant and I am repulsed that any given neuro/psych professional would perform under the influence, but they do.

In any case, I bid them farwell - Sound of Music style. So heartwarming. So appropriate. Adieu, therapist. I MAILED one a photo of Martha Stewart's decorated jail cell - so they too can have a pretty cell. Done it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEIzyhu5txE[/youtube]


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15 Sep 2010, 4:47 pm

First of all, Meadow, it is really brave and probably therapeutic in some way to talk about what you talked about, in my honest opinion. Let it out, girl.

I have had many therapists, of all different kinds. They don't last long, once it's clear that they understand squat. Because I have spontaneity and blind leaps of faith, they do get a look-in though. I have had experiences such as being reported to welfare (I have children, who I look after, but I don't always communicate well and/or play social games well), though mostly by people who consider themselves therapists but aren't really.
I've had worse experiences at the hands of authority, too, though this moment is not the moment I will detail the story here.

Eventually I realised I had no idea what I was supposed to be even doing there, so I asked. Fortunately I was in the office of one of the few good therapists when I did, who was able to give me a definition ~ the goal of the therapist or councellor is to help the client to self-integrate, or in other words be able to unify themselves, make their own decisions etc.
That lady was a drug and alcohol councellor, who had been a nurse (sometimes nurses are great; they're unafraid of nitty-gritty and plain truth, without needing to be hurtful. A couple of times in my life, I have received small pieces of solace from nurses).

My unfavourite therapist is a male therapist who told me that I don't have AS. I paid a lot of money to be ignored. He literally completely ignored what I was saying.

I now have a lady therapist who actually understands what I am talking about. She is borderline aspie herself, so understands auditory processing disorder and things like that. It's an epiphany.

LabPet ~ you remind me a little of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo :) Sometimes, therapists do not respect what power they have and what their job is. I feel you did the right thing.


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15 Sep 2010, 9:51 pm

LabPet wrote:
Feat of the Therapist Slayer

It's been done....I sent this video clip (below) to two "the rapists" :twisted: It went over quite well, considering....one's in drug rehab. On a personal note, I found drug use repugnant and I am repulsed that any given neuro/psych professional would perform under the influence, but they do.

In any case, I bid them farwell - Sound of Music style. So heartwarming. So appropriate. Adieu, therapist. I MAILED one a photo of Martha Stewart's decorated jail cell - so they too can have a pretty cell. Done it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEIzyhu5txE[/youtube]


Your experience sounds really terrible, and your run of bad ones is unusually long. I remember reading about Richard Feynman's brief experience with psychiatrists, and how he was deferred from the armed services because he said he can hear voices when he is dreaming. He said "This is science? This is medicine?" I am reminded of another person who said that psychiatrists often abuse drugs, and sometimes the very same drugs they prescribe. Many are on the verge of needing the drugs for themselves.



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15 Sep 2010, 9:56 pm

On the verge? They definitely need the drugs.



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15 Sep 2010, 10:14 pm

I''m retired. I'm just done with it. I once had someone try and give me anti-depressants (for my cancer) and I just looked at him and said

"You're telling me I can't be sad. You're calling me a p****."

Then I got into the medical reasons why I wouldn't take them (interactions, side effects, etc), told him to f**k off, and left.


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