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23 Sep 2010, 3:59 pm

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All my life, growing up, my Mum taught me to 'be myself'. Myself is a nice person who just so happens to have autism. Part of me being me is rocking, being quiet at times and being interested in languages.

On the other hand my psychologist is telling me not to be myself. He says it is bad if people see me rocking or flicking my fingers in front of my eyes. He tells me no one will want to be friends with me if I am like that.

I have tried both options. Being myself makes me no friends and yes, people look at me like I am weird or something.

Pretending to be 'normal' also makes me no friends and still people look at me like I am weird.

When I pretend and try to hide my AS symptoms, I end up getting uber-stressed and overwhelmed. I suffer from severe exhaustion some days just by trying to 'fit in'. Why can't my psychologist (who might I add claims to specialise in ASDs) understand this?

What's your opinion?

Yes, it's very confusing. I have always received contradictory messages from the world and was keen to pick up on them and it stressed me out. Should I be myself or try to live in a way that pleases others? I have heard both most of my life. There're no easy answers. All you can do is live in a way that makes you happiest.



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28 Oct 2010, 5:51 am

I think if someone doesn't want to be friends with you because of your rocking/stimming, they are not worthy of your friendship. They should care more about your personality, than stuff like that. I think the only time you should feel the need to change things like that is if you are in a movie or something because that could be distracting to the other patrons.



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28 Oct 2010, 6:07 am

I'd rather show my vintage stripes than hide. 8)


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28 Oct 2010, 6:30 am

Jellybean wrote:

When I pretend and try to hide my AS symptoms, I end up getting uber-stressed and overwhelmed. I suffer from severe exhaustion some days just by trying to 'fit in'. Why can't my psychologist (who might I add claims to specialise in ASDs) understand this?

What's your opinion?


This is a key observation, IMHO. People in general can't be happy if they must continually force themselves to be something that comes so unnaturally that it exhausts them. This is true of everyone, not just autistics. The challenge is that an Aspie being their self can result in social isolation that is in itself very frustrating. It's a catch 22. I increasingly lean towards being myself when I can get away with it. People can be really nasty and people can be very warm and understanding. A great way to filter out the nasty ones is to let them display it on first contact. If my weirdness turns them off then too bad for them. If it doesn't, then I've stumbled upon a human gold.



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28 Oct 2010, 6:36 am

Yeah, I have to be myself, because I can't handle the consequences of not.


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28 Oct 2010, 6:46 am

Jellybean wrote:
All my life, growing up, my Mum taught me to 'be myself'. Myself is a nice person who just so happens to have autism. Part of me being me is rocking, being quiet at times and being interested in languages.

On the other hand my psychologist is telling me not to be myself. He says it is bad if people see me rocking or flicking my fingers in front of my eyes. He tells me no one will want to be friends with me if I am like that.

I have tried both options. Being myself makes me no friends and yes, people look at me like I am weird or something.

Pretending to be 'normal' also makes me no friends and still people look at me like I am weird.

When I pretend and try to hide my AS symptoms, I end up getting uber-stressed and overwhelmed. I suffer from severe exhaustion some days just by trying to 'fit in'. Why can't my psychologist (who might I add claims to specialise in ASDs) understand this?

What's your opinion?


Always be yourself. F**k what everyone thinks.



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28 Oct 2010, 7:06 am

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Always be yourself. F**k what everyone thinks.


Agreed. I'd rather go without having many friends than have a bunch of fake friends who are too narrow minded to accept the real me.



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28 Oct 2010, 7:08 am

...And in response to the thing about hiding stims, here is a classic video of Bill Gates rocking:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTfWAZVd-Bo[/youtube]



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28 Oct 2010, 8:23 am

I still remember how that classmate told me about her life and that she never really got along until she just "was herself" rather than acting as somebody else.
I also remember wanting to slap her face for that, because all I knew then was that "being myself" never, ever worked for me, and that everything that was "myself" about me was regarded as higly strange by other people.

I spent my life trying to be like others and all I know is: I didn't succeed well, I never had many friends, I still felt alienated, and furthermore I had serious depressions up to the point of being suicidal.
When I got older I noticed that I had tried so hard to be like others that I had given up many of my interests, and that there were many things that I did not do because it might disturb others in some way or the other, and I tried to "dig myself out".
Ever since I suspected what might be the cause for my strangeness I have analysed my daily life. I noticed that most social interactions in groups were followed by depressions. I also noticed that many of the things that I had given up were aspie things.

All I know is: Hding myself has made me anything but happy. Trying to act NT is the main cause for my depressions

Right now I'm trying to be myself more and to come to terms with my differences. I'm trying to find that balance where I can still interact with other people, but don't need to give myself up for that.

I don't think that you should act out every aspie trait, but hiding is, reviewing my own life, not a very healthy solution either.

I'd say the solution is the proper balance, that everybody needs to find himself.



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28 Oct 2010, 8:37 am

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Right now I'm trying to be myself more and to come to terms with my differences. I'm trying to find that balance where I can still interact with other people, but don't need to give myself up for that.


There we go.


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28 Oct 2010, 9:03 am

Who else but yourself can you be?

As you said, you couldn't make friends either way that you were yourself; it's the same person.



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28 Oct 2010, 9:24 am

^ It means she went to great effort to change her behavior, for no effect.

Always trust yourself over the "experts".



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28 Oct 2010, 9:46 am

Hmm interesting question. As I'm also bisexual, I'm selective on who I share that with too...

I'm quite good at mimicry, so I've managed over the years to "morph" into an NT. I act like an NT when with other NT's.

I have three categories:

If I'm with chavs/muslims/foreigners: I am NT and straight.
Close friends: Autistic and Bi.
Work: Autistic and straight.

To be honest it's fine as it is. I have no problems at all with it!



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28 Oct 2010, 10:57 am

If I'm around people I can get along with, and the subject happens to come up: "I'm bisexual, and mainly attracted to women."

Otherwise: "It's none of your goddamn business!"

(Just thought I'd throw my two cents in.)



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28 Oct 2010, 7:37 pm

I'm always myself.
However, for the sake of making life run a bit more smoothly, I've learned to copy other people's body language in public, fake eye contact (even make eye contact if I need to seem really-super-duper-sincere-and-connected!), use basic social scripts, and redirect my stims to forms that are less distracting to people.
I view it the same way as wearing slightly more formal clothes in public than around the house- it's just changing my surface, not the person underneath it all.


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