NTs can be dumb too

Post Reply New Topic

Re: the bus thing. NT's seem to not notice traffic most of the time. They cross the road as though they can't even see the cars. And they spend more time on the conversation they're having on their mobile phones than looking where they are going. See, I always look where I'm going and look at people opposite me so if we collide it's usually they're fault because they're not paying attention to where they are going.

I agree NT's can act a bit foolish but they don't do it all the time. But it is good to see them stumble at times. I remember when I picked up on my ex slurring his words. Then there are times when my mum asks me a lot of questions that have simple answers. I've even seen people older than me confused inside stores. Things that used to confuse me but I now know off my heart.

And yes, I knew what the OP meant when he said 'dumb.' If you want to take the word literally it means you can't speak.

In my opinion that is just an example of being polite. If someone was talking and taking up the sales persons time, if hes not listening to what you're saying, hows is he supposed to know that the talk is not related to her helping a customer?

If your aunt does this kind of things often she may be on the autism spectrum too. She may have been focusing on something else and/or daydreaming, but she may also have been spacing out.



I agree. And it is not always so obvious who is AS and who is NT, the autism spectrum is pretty large and a person can be a little bit of both, NT and also have characteristics of autism.

Shadi

And it also means lack of intelligence, showing no intelligence, and requiring no intelligence.

My aunt is not on the autistic spectrum. I know my aunt, and I just know she has never shown a symptom of AS. Being in a trance is a symptom of AS but can still be done by people who are by no means on the spectrum. NTs do this too, and it doesn't mean they're on the spectrum. My aunt is a typical NT.

Everyone is an individual, even NTs are. Just because one NT does something, it doesn't mean they're on the spectrum and you've got to run them up the doctors and they'll be diagnosed with AS or Autism tomorrow. It doesn't work like that. Having AS doesn't mean everything we do is totally different to NTs, and that NTs would never do what Aspies do. It doesn't work like that either. Not every single NT are completely aware of their surroundings. Every single time I walk into a busy supermarket I get somebody walking into me or stepping back right onto my toe - they can't be that aware of what's going on around them. Usually before I go to walk, I look behind first to check if anyone is coming up behind me - and that means I'm being aware of other people.


ps - I'm not very good at words, so when I called this thread ''NTs can be dumb too'', I didn't interpret the word ''dumb'' as stupid and dimwitted (although it can mean that aswell). You can only write so many words in the title bit, so I didn't want to go round the houses. I just meant NTs can do dumb things sometimes, ''dumb'' meaning they can ''break the social rules''.

Heh heh.

There are 10 kinds of people, those that understand binary and those that don't.

I've been wondering for a long while whether I'm really on the spectrum. But regardless, I'm a very dumb guy if I'm on the spectrum or if I'm an NT.

Yes of course, but since I don't know her I was wondering if she did that a lot if she could be on the spectrum, but if you know her and she is obviously NT then you are probably right.




I know what you meant, and I agree that everyone can do "dumb" things.

Shadi

I wasn't offended when you put about my aunt might be on the spectrum (in case you thought I were). I know that curiousity of someone being on the spectrum is by no means offensive.
My aunt doesn't really do it a lot, but she has done it - and I think everyone has. Not all NTs have peripheral vision either, or if so they don't always ''use'' it, depending on what mood they're in. I have peripheral vision (and I am on the spectrum) - I can see the exact expression on people's faces when they pass me in the street without me even looking at them. And there are other things I can see without looking straight at it. But that all depends on how I'm feeling.

Sometimes a NT has done/thought/said something what someone on the spectrum would do/think/say. Almost every day I hear someone do that, and it sometimes shocks me. Like once my NT cousin covered her ears at a very loud noise in the street. And my friend, who is NT, hates eye-contact - she looks away from anyone when she talks. The list goes on with all different kinds of people.

The most dumbest of people I have met are people who are NT. I have met the most rudest, ignorant self centered NTs and some are in my own family!

Yes - me too.
How come, though, it is ''normal'' to be selfish rude and ignorant, and yet if we are, people say we're not normal?

Because you can't appear to be selfish, you must mask it with the pretense of civility. Aspies just refuse to wear the mask.

How do you hide being selfish?

Ultimately you can't. The selfish motivations become apparent in time. But it is possible to put on a facade long enough to deceive the naive. The facade falls when the selfish desire is fulfilled.

It's normal for an NT to be selfish, rude and ignorant in some circumctances, and to be altruistic, polite and knowledgeable in other circumctances.

I generally think NTs are dumb. I don't think they should take offense to that, their brain just puts social relationships and connection type of things before academic pursuits.