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09 Oct 2010, 8:09 am

However,society is a little easier on women if they live at home at later ages



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09 Oct 2010, 8:19 am

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However,society is a little easier on women if they live at home at later ages


Why?

If thats even true (which doubt) have you ever thought maybe its because Men and women aren't actually equal according to "society"

"society" thinks its fine for women to stay home and look after kids while the father makes money. "society" would think a man was a bit weird when the roles are reversed. Just like "society" gives males dominance in the workplace with more earning power (on average, im not saying this is always the case).

You make it sound like women have some sort of easy ride.

Get the f**k over it.



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09 Oct 2010, 8:23 am

hale_bopp wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
However,society is a little easier on women if they live at home at later ages


Why?

If thats even true (which doubt) have you ever thought maybe its because Men and women aren't actually equal according to "society"

"society" thinks its fine for women to stay home and look after kids while the father makes money. "society" would think a man was a bit weird when the roles are revered. Just like "society" gives males dominance in the workplace with more earning power (on average, im not saying this is always the case).

You make it sound like women have some sort of easy ride.

Get the f**k over it.



A women only has an easy ride if she is considerably good looking. What I just said WILL piss a lot of people off here though...



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09 Oct 2010, 8:24 am

ApsieGuy wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
However,society is a little easier on women if they live at home at later ages


Why?

If thats even true (which doubt) have you ever thought maybe its because Men and women aren't actually equal according to "society"

"society" thinks its fine for women to stay home and look after kids while the father makes money. "society" would think a man was a bit weird when the roles are revered. Just like "society" gives males dominance in the workplace with more earning power (on average, im not saying this is always the case).

You make it sound like women have some sort of easy ride.

Get the f**k over it.



A women only has an easy ride if she is considerably good looking...


I don't know how many picard facepalms I need for this one.



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09 Oct 2010, 8:25 am

hale_bopp wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
However,society is a little easier on women if they live at home at later ages


Why?

If thats even true (which doubt) have you ever thought maybe its because Men and women aren't actually equal according to "society"

"society" thinks its fine for women to stay home and look after kids while the father makes money. "society" would think a man was a bit weird when the roles are revered. Just like "society" gives males dominance in the workplace with more earning power (on average, im not saying this is always the case).

You make it sound like women have some sort of easy ride.

Get the f**k over it.



A women only has an easy ride if she is considerably good looking...


I don't know how many picard facepalms I need for this one.



Well, I guess I should just stop mouthing off about s**t I dont know the f**k about.


This thread is more like:

1.) Im bitter and hate my life right now.

2.) Im just going to say "x" person has it easier(which may not be true) instead of getting off my butt and improving my life



Sorry guys




Mods please close this thread!! !



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09 Oct 2010, 8:42 am

Yeah I get where you're coming from and sorry for being so agrressive. But it gets pretty tiring having these discussions all over WP about how women have it easier.

How is making a thread about it going to fix that if it is true anyway? All its going to do is drive you into a bitter spiral into the ground of hate and darkness.



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09 Oct 2010, 8:44 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Yeah I get where you're coming from and sorry for being so agrressive. But it gets pretty tiring having these discussions all over WP about how women have it easier.

How is making a thread about it going to fix that if it is true anyway? All its going to do is drive you into a bitter spiral into the ground of hate and darkness.



If I find out women have it easier. I plan to take out a massive loan to get a sex change operation and make me an attractive women.

Then some guy will pay off the loan for me..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

That was a joke btw


Even if someone DOES have it easier....that doesnt affect me much whether someone has it harder/easier.....besides the fact that I feel like total s**t and bad for them when I see them



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09 Oct 2010, 11:34 am

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If I find out women have it easier. I plan to take out a massive loan to get a sex change operation and make me an attractive women.
Women don't necessarily have it easier in the 'Living at home' department.

While they do get to sit at home, they also get to watch their friends move on and leave them behind. Staying at home too long is a lonely road to be at for a woman, because her friends eventually stop being able to relate to her once they get married and have babies. So while she doesn't get nagged for remain at home, she isn't necessarily happy because of it.


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09 Oct 2010, 11:45 am

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If I find out women have it easier. I plan to take out a massive loan to get a sex change operation and make me an attractive women.
Women don't necessarily have it easier in the 'Living at home' department.

While they do get to sit at home, they also get to watch their friends move on and leave them behind. Staying at home too long is a lonely road to be at for a woman, because her friends eventually stop being able to relate to her once they get married and have babies. So while she doesn't get nagged for remain at home, she isn't necessarily happy because of it.




I really hadn't thought about it from this perspective. I was just annoyed that guys get nagged and women don't


No idea that there is pressure for women to get married/have kids and none for guys



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09 Oct 2010, 1:14 pm

Some women are guilted into living at home past a certain age.


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09 Oct 2010, 1:51 pm

In my country:

- Both man and woman are only supposed to leave home when they marry

- People who live alone are almost considered anti-social or something similar

- In case of a divorce, is not rare to return to parent's house (but more in case of women)

- There are more social pressure to marry in the case of women

- "Stay-at-home mothers" don't exist below the 50 y.o. range (note that our median wage is $1000/month)

What is interesting in this thread is to see that most members live in a world much different from mine (social pressure to leave parents home?? women staying at home with the kids??)



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09 Oct 2010, 2:46 pm

TPE2 wrote:
In my country:

- Both man and woman are only supposed to leave home when they marry

- People who live alone are almost considered anti-social or something similar

- In case of a divorce, is not rare to return to parent's house (but more in case of women)

- There are more social pressure to marry in the case of women

- "Stay-at-home mothers" don't exist below the 50 y.o. range (note that our median wage is $1000/month)

What is interesting in this thread is to see that most members live in a world much different from mine (social pressure to leave parents home?? women staying at home with the kids??)



It is wierd. I guess both women and men have it hard in America. However, I guess I will list some of the pressures both sexes here seem to go through


men:

-Get a good job
-Develop good social skills
-Get muscular/tough


women:
-look pretty
-have babies
-get married
-look young
-stay thin(No one cares over here if a guy gets overwieght.)

and a lot more im probably not listing

Both sexes have equal societal pressures overall.



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09 Oct 2010, 3:50 pm

ApsieGuy wrote:
Metalwolf wrote:
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If I find out women have it easier. I plan to take out a massive loan to get a sex change operation and make me an attractive women.
Women don't necessarily have it easier in the 'Living at home' department.

While they do get to sit at home, they also get to watch their friends move on and leave them behind. Staying at home too long is a lonely road to be at for a woman, because her friends eventually stop being able to relate to her once they get married and have babies. So while she doesn't get nagged for remain at home, she isn't necessarily happy because of it.




I really hadn't thought about it from this perspective. I was just annoyed that guys get nagged and women don't


Really.. You haven't met my parents then.



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09 Oct 2010, 3:58 pm

The only thing I can think of that has been easier for me as a female is that it is easier to come up with stuff on a minimum-wage job application to fill the "gaps" so that I don't look so pathetic.

For example, after being homeless for four months and unable to find a job, I was able to make something up to fill that gap so it didn't look like I was homeless and unable to find a job for four months. Like "looking after ill family member." An employment gap of a couple of years can be spackled up with "married and stay-at-home housewife." Those sorts of application excuses don't look as good to an employer when they're on a man's application.

But anyway, it only works for very low-level jobs that aren't going to investigate you and don't really care if you were doing something "in your field" or not but only care whether you're a total loser or only enough of a loser to really need that job at McDonald's. And all it really does is make the applicant look more responsible and together than they really are. And I suspect that people who hire for those crap jobs already know that when someone says they were taking care of their sick grandmother they are totally lying to cover up the fact that they couldn't hold on to even the kind of job that pretty much hires just about anybody who walks in off the street, often the day they apply.

And, for all I know, there are similar "application gap fillers" for men, but I've never been able to think of one that would look better than "homeless and unemployed, living in the park and bathing in the filling station restroom." So that's one advantage I can think of to being female -- having an easier time hiding a really patchy work history -- but it's a pretty piss-poor advantage, if you ask me.


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09 Oct 2010, 8:25 pm

I can say that I was nagged plenty when I was living with my parents. much of it was well meaning, career suggestions which they didnt realise i could not do, and lots of other suggestions of what I should be doing.

I basically get on a lot better with them when I am not living with them, as wonderful as they are.


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09 Oct 2010, 8:27 pm

And I dont know about this good looking women nonsense. I was considered good looking in my 20s but I have had far from an easy ride, and I am stil not married.


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