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oliverthered
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10 Oct 2010, 5:10 am

I think that Manson could have been made to be a little more, well, less 'outspoken' via his manipulation if they had just talked to him properly, and asked the right questions in the right way.

One experiment too far, perhaps.

here's the video;




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Here's my 'transcipt' of the inner dialogue, desire etc.... that the shrink should not work out.

the world we don't understand
did he think he was doing it for the good
half of our staff, where scared about what they would learn.


Hears what he was asked

Demonstrating the other people do evil.

We could not understand what he was going on about.

It's clear, that other people are guilty

You are evil, you have done bad things, why can't I. Did I not show you you do bad things.

Why should i feal guilty about you being bad, and me showing you that.

I whould have shown you more, I should have done it better, I should have done more.



You are asking me stupid questins, bugga bugga buga, blah blah, that's what you sound like to me.

I will admit that i'm incompatnat.

i have learned to reflect on myself, have you leared to do so.

I really don't want to be a psychopath, I do not want to play your game, that's a stupid little game.

Don't you see it's in your head, I think, you murder I do not, it's in my head, why it that not in yours.


I've seen those adds about black people on drugs raping white women, so i know what drugs do, so I'd like to blaim it on the drugs.

Here are the lists of all my crimes.

I live on the street, I live in the real world, not in the world of 'tinsel' the world of the psychopaths.

Believe me, If I was a psyhopath, there would be no one left.



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10 Oct 2010, 5:22 am

liveandletdie wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
If you have insight (which you do), then your not mad (psychotic) by definition, because you are intouch with reality.

Anxiety can really mess with people, think of it as a type of Synaesthesia.

For me, this was a side effect of anti-depressants and lasted for over 5 years after stopping them.

I used to get the electric shot sensations as well as 'visual' and otherwise disterbances,
They both went away at around the same time, and I still get 'flash backs'.

SSRIs are basically none-self limiting hallucinogenic drugs.Like MDMA, but unlike MDMA, because background levels of neurotransmitters rise, homoeostasis should make your body produce less by itself to try to cope.

So, they can be addictive, can cause you to flip out proper bad like, and side effects and withdrawal, well can be a bit 'funky' to say the least.

Don't ask my opinion of anti-psychotics.


interesting point...

I think I can assume your opinion on anti-psychotics is not good, I took them a couple times as directed....but hated how they mad me feel (Like a mindless zombie) so I never took them again.

I have not taken anti depressants in at least a year and that time a year ago was buspirone, an anti anxiety type of drug also used sometimes for depression...

And even further back then that I was on bupropion for quite awhile

I have been off medication for about a month and a half now, trying to live a sober minded life...I am sure there are still some lasting effects from the past medications I have taken though like most recently adderall...


as the shrink said, if it worked they'd be using it.
I'd say that most people, who have issues are pretty good at working out what works and what doesn't (sometimes getting a little carried away perhaps, possibly because they don't realise that homoeostasis means that if they take things often, it may make them worse in the longrun and given them 'rebound')

I would pay 40 quid to a guy standing of a street corner, if I didn't know it worked.(for myself).

Why would anyone in power, or the drug pusher companies ever want people to take things that actually worked. That would put them out of business, and put the people in control.



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10 Oct 2010, 5:26 am

personally, I find fresh air, exercise, going out in stimulating environments (the country side is a it easier to deal with that social situations most of the time, but I have good, strong friendships).

Eating good,
Lots of thinking, and introspection so that I can learn to understand myself and other things and people better and so actually deal with the issues in my head by correcting the thoughts that cause those issues, or mitigating against them.


CBT is available (to assist in introspection and changing though and behaviour patterns to mitigate against the anxiety0, I don't know how available it is though, nor how expensive (assuming the government that taxes you, doesn't spend that tax money on your health)



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10 Oct 2010, 12:21 pm

WARNING.

I think I've found the shrinking problem.

I talk like Charles Manson.

Questions, questions always questions, never any self.

You've been warned! Try not to sound like Manson!! !! !

If you get a little tempered about someone, could you think of any questions that you could or may ask to better understand them, that may be taken as a mad man, giving orders.

Especially if your a bit manipulative in try to work them out, setting traps and seeing if they fall into them etc...

Although I was always get their consent, to set the trap, I would always let them know what the trap was first, and the nature of the experiment.
But still they fall in.

I would not set a trap of seeing if they kill someone, that would be me killing them, and I would feel guilty.

It could be possible for someone like me, to ask a question like 'Are you going to kill her then?', whilst distressed, coming across as a barking mad man, with strange tone of voice.

Esp If I'm a drunk, petty car thief.



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12 Oct 2010, 11:03 pm

I think that all the time that people are looking at me when they arent or talking about me when then arent. Especially with strangers then I am really bad. I also hear other peoples conversations along with the one I am having so I know other people that I can hear arent talking about me its the conversations across rooms when people are looking at me and talking is what I freak out about.


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