Homeopathic remedies for ADHD or BiPolar II

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I think the opinion around here regarding homeopathy is evident.

I am wondering why you are asking about ADHD/Bi Polar in a Asperger's forum. Is your step son also on the autism spectrum?

My only advice is to concentrate on what works. If medication actually helps, then it's a good tool. Even if the side effects are annoying, are they really so bad that the medicine should be discontinued?

What symptoms are being treated? You can't treat a psychotic episode with exercise, but exercise is helpful for stress management.

When I was thinking about asking this question I started at the new forum in regard to Bi Polar and other disorders that aren't autism. I chose this forum because in the general discussion it includes ADHD, and I think he is more ADHD than Bi Polar.

My son has PDD-NOS. My oldest son has MANY characteristics of PDD/Aspergers and so does my husband. It would be my bet that both of them, if tested as a child would have tested on the spectrum pretty easily. The step son that I am referring to was diagnosed with ADHD in high school, and then Bi Polar II disorder in college. I have read about both a little, and apparently from what I read it is common to go from ADHD to Bi Polar. My opinion is that the label doesn't really matter, what matters is what is giving the child trouble and focusing on that, and what is the child good at and enriching that. The label doesn't matter. I have tried to pound this into his mothers head, but she doesn't listen.

I think my husband and children are all pretty much alike, call them PDD or ADD or Bi Polar. Many people on here have Bi Polar or ADHD as a Co Morbid. I want to understand, and I want to help the people I love. I have a lot of respect for people on this forum and the opinions that they have and they have helped my son and my relationship with my husband more than you will ever know. Many times I start here first when I'm beginning to learn about something because you all live it, there are many very intelligent people on here that know a lot about this stuff, and it gets me pointed in the right direction.

I told him to exercise and eat better, lose weight (he's heavy and very self conscious about it) quit drinking because it's a depressant, .....etc etc. He needs decent guidance and he doesn't get it.

This is why I asked this on this forum. AND This is the first time I have regretted asking a question.

Good advice.



Much harder problem.



Well this IS an Asperger's forum and as such blurting out answers is to be expected. You got a negative response about homeopathy, but you shouldn't let that turn you away.

Medication is the first line of defense in bipolar. Does your step son actuall hve trouble with side effects or is he just tired of being medicated? It is common for someone that faces a lifetime of medication to go through phases where they just don't want to take pills.

If your step son is in college, why does is biological mother have so much say in the course of his treatment? He can do whatever he wishes. Another important step is for him to take ownership of his mental health. He needs to make his own decisions.

Homeopathy only really works in an ideal environment. Overweight on junk food and alcoholism makes any effectiveness difficult, until those basics are taken care of.

The fact that effective homeopathic treatment requires a caffeine free, alcohol free, junk food free lifestyle, means that its unavailable to you at present until you clean your own house.

Allopathic medicine or drug therapy, does not require the aspirant to modify their behaviour or oral activity.

AMAZING!! !

I don't mind people blurting out answers, I appreciate candor. I just didn't expect being condescended to and judged. I felt a little attacked and that has never happend to me on this forum, at least to this extent. I was a little taken aback.

My son is OK with meds when he's on them. When he misses a dose he crashes bad, and he doesn't want to deal with that. I honestly see more ADD than Bi Polar in him, but he spends most of his time with his mother so I don't know what he doesn't tell me, and he tends to say the standard everything is great, until this summer. It was the first time he actually WANTED a conversation with me and initiated it. I think he wants help, but he isn't with the right person. He has been babied all of his life. He has never had any kind of responsiblity or accountability. His mother takes care of him, pays his way to college, he does not work because she won't "let" him and she pays the bills, he's never been taught ANY life skills. His mother was a bank manager for 20 years and he is 22 years old and has no idea what interest is, or how to write a check. It kills me to watch this kid crash and burn, but until he gets out from under her all I can do is try to get her to wake up and it hard because it's her way and it always has been.

I know this is a futile effort, but I love him and I have to try and I don't really know what to do. If there is something to homeopathic stuff then I want to know that. If not, then I will just keep trying to help him when I can and hope that one day he gets his s**t together. He may be old enough to make his own decisions, that doesn't mean he is able to.

Thanks for your support. I appreciate it....

True.

But, I'm sorry, your ...15 years old... are you just repeating things you hear? or have you researched and tried homoepathic medicine?

Do you have shares in Glaxo?

Homeopathic cures are not supported by double blind studies. I have grave doubts about them.

ruveyn

First of all, the idea that like cures like is absurd (poison ivy cures rashes, yeah right!).

Secondly, homeopathic remedies are so diluted that it is impossible for there to be any molecules of the active ingredient left. In other words, it's just water. Supposedly water can "remember" which molecules have been dissolved in it. Of course, this has never been verified by science.

Thirdly, there's no scientific evidence from double blind placebo controlled studies that homeopathy works.

Finally, people have overdosed on homeopathic remedies as a form of protest against pharmacies for selling them. As expected, nothing actually happens to the protestors as the tables are just sugar pills.

10 thousand years ago, the Europeans were running around naked and painting themselves blue.
In India people were already civilized and practicing homeopathy and other natural remedies.
It is interesting to hear all the nattering nabobs of negativism here, attempting to debunk a
modality that has been successful for thousands of years. What Hubris. And what ignorance!
Note that I didn't say stupid. I don't think those people here are stupid.. with a few exceptions..
just ignorant of these time tested modalities, which if not for them, they would not be here to run
off at the mouth. Your ancestors almost certainly would have died without natural healing methods.
I am Choctaw, and we native American people have been practicing different natural remedies for
12 thousand years or more.
My advice is to go with what works. And what has worked for thousands of years.
I hear people here disparaging the placebo effect. Which is about 30% effective.
If any pharmaceutical giant came out with a product that had a consistent 30% effect on cancer, they
would be on the six o:clock news with it, and starting confetti parades down fifth avenue.
About a third of the people in any hospital are there as a result of an Iatrogenic cause. No one is
in the hospital as a result of urine therapy or a natural healing modality.
Clinics are full of people with adverse reactions to medicines prescribed. No clinic has a patient who
is there as a result of smoking M/J.. which by the way is a great healer. We Native Ameridcans have
turn to mushrooms and m/j for a long time. And stayed out of the white mans hospitals when we could.
Sadly, many of my people have been brainwashed by the white mans culture and still flock to the
slaughter house of modern medicine.
I recently read of a survey of Oncologists (cancer specialists) said they would not, nor would they let
their relatives undergo chemo or radiation therapy.

The idea of the placebo in modern times originated with H. K. Beecher. He evaluated 15 clinical trials concerned with different diseases and found that 35% of 1,082 patients were satisfactorily relieved by a placebo alone ("The Powerful Placebo," 1955). Other studies have since calculated the placebo effect as being even greater than Beecher claimed. For example, studies have shown that placebos are effective in 50 or 60 percent of subjects with certain conditions, e.g., "pain, depression, some heart ailments, gastric ulcers and other stomach complaints."* And, as effective as the new psychotropic drugs seem to be in the treatment of various brain disorders, some researchers maintain that there is not adequate evidence from studies to prove that the new drugs are more effective than placebos.

The Mighty Placebo.

Never underestimate the power of natural healing methods.

Amen brother. We call it medical misadventure in NZ. BTW herbal medicine practised by Maori has all but disappeared here.

Our forests are abundant, often like Amazonian rainforests yet little botanical knowledge has been retained

We're caught in a trap
And we cant get out
Because, we love you too much
Baby

Homeopathy is not herbal medicine - it's proven to be nonsense. A high concentration homeopathic medicine is comparable to dissolving a sugar cube in a globe of water the size of our solar system, soltions that you buy would require a globe of water larger than the known universe in which to dissolve your sugar cube. A Chicken McNugget has infinitely more medical benefit than any homeopathic remedy and is probably cheaper.

Tally ho!!

Oh, you mean when the life expectancy was 30 and people died more from the medicine than the disease? Ancient =\= good.

Also, homeopathy was invented by German physician Samuel Hahnemann in 1796, not thousands of years ago in India. Homeopathy =\= herbal medicine.

So you're admitting that homeopathy is a placebo? Is it ethical to lie to people and then charge them for it? Especially when there's drugs out there that are more effective than placebo?