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14 Oct 2010, 11:36 pm

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Why is it inappropriate to slurp loud in public?

Why is it inappropriate to burp loud in public?

Why is it inappropriate to show your money in public? Seriously, when people exchange money in a secretive way, it looks like they are dealing drugs.



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14 Oct 2010, 11:51 pm

jc6chan wrote:
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Why is it inappropriate to slurp loud in public?

Why is it inappropriate to burp loud in public?

Why is it inappropriate to show your money in public? Seriously, when people exchange money in a secretive way, it looks like they are dealing drugs.



I can answer the money one. I think it's because someone could snatch it right out of your hand and there goes your money.
I never thought it was inappropriate, I was told to put it away because someone could steal it from me. My ex once snatched 20 bucks out of my hand to show me how easy it is. But why call it inappropriate than risky thing? Beats me.



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14 Oct 2010, 11:54 pm

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Why is it inappropriate to ask grown ups their age?


That's right up there with "never ask a woman her age." I personally don't care--I enjoy the stunned looks I get from people who think I'm much younger. :wink:


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Why is it inappropriate to go to a nice restaurant wearing casual clothing?


That's STILL a very good question for me, too. Why can't we just dress comfortably all the time? I think I've written/ranted about social "dress codes" before. I've learned how to "conform" when necessary, but I still find it annoying.

Along those same lines, what exactly does "out of style" mean, anyway?



Out of style means it's not in fashion anymore you will no longer find in stores and lot of people don't wear it anymore.



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15 Oct 2010, 12:05 am

why is it inappropriate to sing while at the dinner table?

why is it inappropriate to step in between two people talking?

why is it inappropriate to wear at hat at the dinner table?

why is it inappropriate to be loud in a library?

why is it inappropriate to jump and climb on things in public?



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15 Oct 2010, 12:12 am

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Why is it inappropriate to talk about bodily functions at the table during meal time?


It makes NTs feel queasy and you just try eating when your stomach feels funny.

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Why is it inappropriate to get up during a play but it's okay during a movie and a sports game?


Because in a play, the performers are watching the audience; at a sports game, they're playing the game and intent on that, and at a movie they're not there. Plus, people get rowdy at sports games because they're using them as an outlet for the urge to go kill people that we normally suppress in modern culture, so people are screaming and jumping up; at a play, however, the mood is calmer, more contemplative.

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Why is it inappropriate to ask someone their weight?

Because 2/3 or so of Americans are overweight, so the assumption is that they're ashamed of it. Add them to anorexics-- who think they're fat and are ashamed of it-- and the perfectly normal people who simply aren't as thin as models and thus feel ashamed and... well, it's a pretty safe bet that whoever you ask will have no way to answer that doesn't feel like confessing to a great crime. It got codified, then, into a rule.


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15 Oct 2010, 12:23 am

Why is okay for a woman to run about scantily clad but a woman who tries to breast feed her baby gets arrested for exposure. It must be a cultural thing becuase when my father was in Japan, mothers breast fed their babies on the bus in plain sight and no one complained.

Why do people fuss more about an unwanted baby who only has to die once and think that's so much worse than an animal who gets tortured over and over for the rest of its life?

Why is it okay to burn, suffocaite, posion, electute, starve, etc. an animal in the name of science but if those same things are done to a person, it is labled torture?

Why is animal torture okay if it helps people (aka vivasection for medical purposes), that's like saying it's okay to expirment on people for veternary medine. And why are people so much better?

Why are people who are willing to stand up for animals labed as freaks?
Why are people so damb sensetive these days? Any TV show or cartoon with tall buldings destroyed has been banned from the air since September 11th.


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15 Oct 2010, 12:48 am

Torturing animals is considered better than torturing people because NTs have an in-group/out-group dichotomy where they view you as "like me, human, worthy of life, thinking, one of God's creatures" or "not like me, not human, ballast existenz, without mind or consciousness, worthless." Even the good NTs just change their definition of out-group to "unlike me, less valuable than my in-group."

It's inappropriate to be loud in the library because people are trying to concentrate on reading, and being loud distracts them. Most NTs are less distracted by your mere presence.

I think it's inappropriate to step between two people talking because:
1. The space belongs to their "group" and you're trespassing.
2. Remember, they're trying to look at each other while they talk. You're blocking their line of sight.
3. If their words can reach each other, they can reach you. They may not want you to hear.


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15 Oct 2010, 5:31 am

Cool thread!

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Why is it inappropriate to laugh or otherwise be happy at a funeral when the departed is supposed to be headed for a better place?


Not everyone believes in an afterlife... some people believe in Hell too, you know. :wink: But I guess it's seen as disrespectful to be showing happiness or laughter at a funeral when there are so many people around who are deeply sad at the prospect of never seeing their loved one again. It makes it look like you're not as affected by the person's death as they are, which they then perceive as rude, because they expect that if you've turned up to the person's funeral, then the person must have meant something to you.

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Why is it inappropriate to talk about bodily functions at the table during meal time?


Because some of the information is graphic and off-putting and people might lose their appetite.

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Why is it inappropriate to sit with your legs apart while wearing a dress, even if you have shorts under there?


Good question. Maybe it's to do with people's ideas of 'ladylike' behaviour. Sitting with your legs spread apart makes someone look kind of oafish and uneducated.

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Why is it inappropriate to have people see your underwear while you are wearing a dress?


Undergarments are seen as private articles of clothing because they're in direct proximity to the most private parts of the body. When someone sees your underwear, they're practically seeing your privates at the same time, because they're actually looking directly at your private area but with a layer of cloth covering it (the underwear) and in people's minds, it's just too much to see.

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Why is it inappropriate to sleep in the same bed with your parents or siblings who are the opposite sex of you?


I think this depends on the culture. In a lot of cultures it would be no problem at all.



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15 Oct 2010, 7:03 am

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Why is it inappropriate to laugh or otherwise be happy at a funeral when the departed is supposed to be headed for a better place? Why not a going away party with a "Roast" I.E a celebrity roast where everyone cracks jokes and relates funny stories about the "Guest of honor"?


I gave a lot of thought about this post. My parents and some of my other family want me to have a memorial service, viewing etc. Personally as an atheist, I would prefer whatever is the least expensive option to ease the financial burden on my family. (Thinking of simply donating my body to research or art) Monday, I will make specific instructions on how my memorial is to take place (with a provision that the named pro memorial people are still around, otherwise donate) Plain unfinished pine box with markers for people to write any thoughts or wishes, also the keg will sit atop the box. Large BBQ, luau style with pig roast and live band ( money will be set aside for the affair, however if the donation is chosen these funds will go to my immediate family) I DON'T CARE IF IT'S INAPPROPRIATE!! Lol


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15 Oct 2010, 7:09 am

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why is it inappropriate to sing while at the dinner table?


Maybe your singing is bad. :P

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Why is it inappropriate to discuss sex in public?


Some people are religious, and feel their values are being threatened by such discussions. Not to mention, if bodily fluids are mentioned, it might gross some people out. Sex is the fine line between beautiful and disgusting.

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Why is it inappropriate to pop your pimples in public?


No one wants to see pus oozing from people's faces. And what would happen if the pus shot out and hit someone? That's not a pleasant thought.



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15 Oct 2010, 7:51 am

Why is it inappropriate to take off your top in public in the extreme heat when you're only wearing a normal bra underneath, but not if you're wearing one of those X-shaped bra tops? Seriously is there such a huge difference between a regular bra and those X shaped bra tops? Why is one 'obscene' and the other okay? Why is it better for me to overheat and faint than show some less than pretty cotton and elastic?


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15 Oct 2010, 7:54 am

Another one :

Why is it wrong to compliment a girl or woman on being 'big and powerful'??

I did this once with a friend and she reacted like I'd called her a child abuser. I don't think she looked unfeminine, I was genuinely jealous of her. I've always wanted more muscle mass.


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15 Oct 2010, 8:09 am

A few of the things here mentioned or that could be mentioned are rooted in what may be basically human - like I seriously doubt that urinating on the main course at a feast would be deemed appropriate anywhere in the world.

But the vast majority are culture bound and essentially arbitrary. Here it is required that you belch at the meal, here you need to make merry at a funeral, here you should not make ete contact with a superior, and so forth.

When the foreigner goes into a new culture, he makes more mistakes, and is more puzzled and offended, than I am in this cultutre.



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15 Oct 2010, 8:10 am

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A few of the things here mentioned or that could be mentioned are rooted in what may be basically human - like I seriously doubt that urinating on the main course at a feast would be deemed appropriate anywhere in the world.


LOL!! !! Thanks for making me laugh.


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15 Oct 2010, 8:48 am

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I can answer the money one. I think it's because someone could snatch it right out of your hand and there goes your money.
I never thought it was inappropriate, I was told to put it away because someone could steal it from me. My ex once snatched 20 bucks out of my hand to show me how easy it is. But why call it inappropriate than risky thing? Beats me.

Someone can snatch your money everytime you go buy something and pay with cash. An example of this is during Chinese New Years when I get red pocket money. I was at a restaurant (for a family gathering meal) and I was checking out how much money I got and my mom was like "don't flash the money in public".



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15 Oct 2010, 9:48 am

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Torturing animals is considered better than torturing people because NTs have an in-group/out-group dichotomy where they view you as "like me, human, worthy of life, thinking, one of God's creatures" or "not like me, not human, ballast existenz, without mind or consciousness

Yeah, some cultures place women in the outgroup, past cultures have considered different races to be in the outgroup, there are many other examples. The actual process is fascinating but it's telling to note that the sense of human supremacy over other species is definitely weakest in many small children and gets stronger with age. Children are often discouraged from giving to animal charities for example, despite the fact that in most societies animals are the most vulnerable and unprotected by the state. Probably desensitisation and socialisation facilate this process that would have been vital for our ancestors' survival and that of many other social species who exhibit the same selective empathy.

If you didn't block out significant amounts of your natural empathy towards animals suffering/being mutilated, or whichever group is suffering or being mutilated in plain sight on a frequent basis, you would go insane because there is so much of it. In the past our species couldn't have survived if they were as averse to killing other species as they were to killing their own, so this neuropsychological process occurs in most of us to this day. I am aware of the reasons why my brain has blocked out much of my sense of empathy towards other species, and I would not wish to reverse this process because I would have developed PTSD after seeing our dog injure a rabbit recently, if I felt the same way about it as I would about a human.

I try to take the same ACTION as I would take if something were happening to a human, despite not actually FEELING as if it were, because I know the reason I feel differently about it is arbitrary. Most people are just not aware of the reason why they feel differently about other species, and assume it must be for a rational reason, so look for any distinctions between us and them and assume that the one they stumble on first must be the deciding factor. Difference in intelligence is most commonly cited because it's the most consistent difference between our species and the others we know about. When you point out the flaws in this argument, they just jump to an unrelated distinction, showing that there really is no rational distinction behind their feelings. they've just assumed that there MUST be one, because they don't know the real reason for their different feelings.

It's not their fault. I don't blame humans for this anymore than I blame the cats who seem to care about their families and their kittens but have no concern at all for the species that they eat. I don't blame humans for their selective empathy any more than most people blame cats for theirs. We're all just brains on a stick. :P

PS it's also far from exclusively NT, though I do think having an ASD could be ONE of the factors that contribute to the likelihood that you'll see through the irrationality of it all, or the likelihood that you'll pursue figuring it out rather than giving up and accepting that everyone else must be right.



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