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04 Jun 2006, 2:08 pm

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
One other thing I do is play this game with myself when I'm on the train, on a bus or in a car. I'll imagine a straight line going out from each side of the vehicle from where I'm sitting, and as streetsigns, pillars, etc, cross over this line I'll clench my toes on the side corresponding to the side where the 'obstacle' is.


Wow.... I do that too, except for I only do it on one side of the vehicle (whichever side I'm on) and I kind of imagine lifting the line projected out overtop of the obstacle as I pass them. I'm not sure if I do anything in addition to just imagining the line, but since you mentioned curling your toes I'm thinking I might do something similar to that and not have payed any attention to it. I don't really ride in anything as a passenger much anymore.



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04 Jun 2006, 4:31 pm

I'm freaking out ... It's really like you've read my mind and put it right in front of me to read!

That's about it I guess ... I'm a bit freaked out, but also glad that I at least have something in common with somebody ...

(I'll sleep on it. Tomorrow perhaps I'll let you in on my own "games" :) I also seem to mess with angles and lines, cars and moving objects, creases in sidewalks, finding patterns, following logic aso ...)



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04 Jun 2006, 4:35 pm

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
And don't start thinking that everything about you can be attributed to AS, because first and foremost you're a person, not some textbook example of a psychiatric diagnosis. Upon learning of AS, a lot of people seem to do this and start to think about themselves entirely in terms of AS.

I hope that by discovering AS you will find relief in the knowledge that there's a community of people you can identify with, who can validate your experiences.


I think about myself in terms of "AS" and it's not wrong, the fact is AS is very consistent pattern, I read this - http://www.aspires-relationships.com/as ... by_age.htm and it described me and my life to a T, exactly. The fact is there is definitely a pattern in the way the our brains are wired.

I do not blame everything in my life on AS but think about it: If my brain was wired to instinctively to enjoy and seek out other people and intuitively understand social interaction I would have had a much better life.

The fact is we act according to our instincts and emotions, they reward us or punish us for certain behaviours, and for me socializing was negative, I never understood the "purpose" of actively socializing, I was completely passive in highschool and my 'friends' found me because we shared the same interests, I never learned how to make friends they just sort of "happened" along the way. I never actively sought out people beyond my social group.

I was more interested in things then people, I found computers, video games and religion (at the time) fascinating, I spent my time obsessively thinking about it all the time. I didn't think about not having friends because I always had some kind of friends until the end of highschool, I passively acquired friends while growing up.



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04 Jun 2006, 4:45 pm

costre wrote:
I'm freaking out ... It's really like you've read my mind and put it right in front of me to read!

That's about it I guess ... I'm a bit freaked out, but also glad that I at least have something in common with somebody ...

(I'll sleep on it. Tomorrow perhaps I'll let you in on my own "games" :) I also seem to mess with angles and lines, cars and moving objects, creases in sidewalks, finding patterns, following logic aso ...)



I keep picturing Keanu Reeves saying "woah..."



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04 Jun 2006, 6:03 pm

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I think about myself in terms of "AS" and it's not wrong, the fact is AS is very consistent pattern, I read this - http://www.aspires-relationships.com/as ... by_age.htm and it described me and my life to a T, exactly. The fact is there is definitely a pattern in the way the our brains are wired.

I do not blame everything in my life on AS but think about it: If my brain was wired to instinctively to enjoy and seek out other people and intuitively understand social interaction I would have had a much better life.

The fact is we act according to our instincts and emotions, they reward us or punish us for certain behaviours, and for me socializing was negative, I never understood the "purpose" of actively socializing, I was completely passive in highschool and my 'friends' found me because we shared the same interests, I never learned how to make friends they just sort of "happened" along the way. I never actively sought out people beyond my social group.

I was more interested in things then people, I found computers, video games and religion (at the time) fascinating, I spent my time obsessively thinking about it all the time. I didn't think about not having friends because I always had some kind of friends until the end of highschool, I passively acquired friends while growing up.


I went to that link and read most of the article. Some of the stuff was accurate, but a lot wasn't. For one thing I find it very false and a bit insulting that they imply that AS kids just memorize stuff and spit it out without understanding of what they are saying. From my experience this is quite the opposite. They imply that they are isolated because of rejection from other kids while ignoring the possibility that the AS kid may not think what the "normal" kids are doing looks fun. I was very isolated as a kid, but when I did want to socialize I was usually met with very little rejection (I may have still been a bit "weird" in my socialization). That fact is that I saw most of the other kids as undesirable playmates. The thing about coordination is absurd. Coordination is learned. You have to build brain-body connections. If you have a lack of interest in activities that require coordination, then you are going to be uncoordinated. I have an obsession with activities that require coordination and so am much more coordinated than the average person (I'm also very strong for my size). ...... Reading on through that article it feels a whole lot like more mistaking lack of desire for lack of ability. Perhaps a lot of AS kids after being told that they can't do certain things for so long start to believe it and never make an attempt to do those things (why waste the effort if you know the reasults are going to be less than what is desired, right?). NT's can't understand why aspies wouldn't want to socialize so they assume that it is because they don't know how. Most of the people that think that I'm to weird to hang out with I think are to boring for me to hang out with. I have never in my life, not even once, desired to be like the "normal" people. I scan the room to find my way while they just walk around and bump into things and hope for the best (maybe somebody will come by to turn them the right direction).



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05 Jun 2006, 2:33 pm

FlyingAnts wrote:
I keep picturing Keanu Reeves saying "woah..."


Need I tell you that I really, really like the Matrix trilogy?

Anywho, my favourite game to play when I'm bored is about lines and angles. Imagine the entire room is covered in a mirrorlike substance. Every object has a perfect mirror finish. Then imagine a beam of light, and try to predict how it will bounce off each object, and what object it will hit next!
It started when I realized my own definition of when two lightbeams are parallell. If you're talking about 2-D, you will have to let the beam enter a perfect 90 degree corner, with mirror edges. When it has bounced two times it's parallell, compared to when it went into the corner.
If you're talking 3-D, it will have to bounce three times of a similar mirrored corner. It will then be parallell compared to when it went into the corner.

Another way is to imagine beams of light coming from your toes, parallell to the general alignment of the foot. Another is coming from your heel, at a 90 degree angle compared to the general alignment of the foot. Again the room is all mirrors, and the two light beams now have to end up at the same place! How your foot is aligned affects the result (In your head of course). It's a b***h if you want the beams to get through the window, but there are tables and curtains in the way. You have to let the beams bounce back and forth many times before ending up where you want them. You could just walk up and put your foot right in front of the window, but that would ruin the challenge. Also, people would think you're nuts. :)

When sitting in the passenger's seat of a car, I usually pretend the car is bouncing forth on the road. I have to predict the angle and upward velocity at each bounce so the car will land where I choose, perhaps right on the line connecting a pole on one side of the road with a pole on the other. Or I will follow the power lines or telephone lines along the road with my eyes and observ how the eyes forward movement is transformed into a straight up-and-down movement. If you imagine a ball rolling on top of the power line you can start messing around with how it would fly away when the power line starts to go "downhill", and so on.

You can also look at the sky, and try to predict the motion of the clouds, or when and where a cloud will appear or disappear. Sometimes you get so close you almost think you're doing it youself ;)

I used to have some compulsive behaviours, such as the need to feel the door's lock close in the "right" way, or else you had to open it and do it again. Or if the TV didn't shut off until the second or third time I pressed the button, I had to turn it on and make sure I got it on the first try that time around. I rarely bother with these things nowadays.



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05 Jun 2006, 10:37 pm

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
One other thing I do is play this game with myself when I'm on the train, on a bus or in a car. I'll imagine a straight line going out from each side of the vehicle from where I'm sitting, and as streetsigns, pillars, etc, cross over this line I'll clench my toes on the side corresponding to the side where the 'obstacle' is. If that's hard to understand, look at this:...


Holy crap. I thought I was like the only person in the world that does this, except I kind of do the reverse, I clench my toes or fingers and unclench them when passing a certain object. Man, I have so many nervous tics it's hard to keep track of them anymore.



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05 Jun 2006, 10:56 pm

FlyingAnts wrote:
Mordy wrote:

I think about myself in terms of "AS" and it's not wrong, the fact is AS is very consistent pattern, I read this - http://www.aspires-relationships.com/as ... by_age.htm and it described me and my life to a T, exactly. The fact is there is definitely a pattern in the way the our brains are wired.



I went to that link and read most of the article. Some of the stuff was accurate, but a lot wasn't.


I agree that some fo the report sounds demeaning but that article was actually one of the first things I read that really clicked about myself and Aspergers because of some of the detailed information. I think the overall tone of the article is one of a clinician and not necessarily a personal or completely accurate view of AS but it certainly has some interesting tidbits of information that I found no place else. At least not before coming to this forum.



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26 May 2007, 4:15 pm

Jees I see myself in all of you people ! !

So MANY things you say apply to me ! !

Sometimes if I see myself in a mirror and there is nobody around I will stare into my eyes for what seems like ages which is strange because I normally avoid eye contact ! !??

With regard to numbers ...one of my THINGS is that I percentage /fraction things all the time - for example -if I see 8 cars in a car park I notice which is the most common COLOUR and put it into % .... so if there were 8 cars and 5 were RED then that is 62.5 % or 5/8 ths ! !! ??? .

Doesn't have to be colours though it works with car models etc etc


Also if I see two cars the same model / colour next to each other or behind one another in traffic - I get a warm feeling LOL - even better if I ther are 3 or 4 ! !! !

Other examples .... I love seeing 5 red cars in a traffic jam or 4 Renault Megane Coupes ( any car will do obviously ))



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26 May 2007, 5:03 pm

First: Welcome to WrongPlanet :!: :!:
Second: I have a problem with people volunteering unsolicited help whenever
I pause in the middle of a task to re-organize my thoughts or "get my mental bearings".
I've lashed out at a lot of people for doing this, they do not realize they are very distracting.
Touching me is a no-no! And I have my "stims", perseverations, and obsessive interests
as well. I am 48 and self diagnosed. I came to my own conclusions about myself and my
condition after some research and some serious soul searching.
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26 May 2007, 6:19 pm

I have a problem with the help thing too (we musta been posting at the same time)

had nervous breakdown first time in fourth grade..was shuttled back to third.
You sound alot like me, Flying Ants!
I still don't know whether I have it, and I am a diagnosed ADDer...but i strongly suspect.

I first found about about Aspergers when someone on another forum told me to look up autistic spectrum stuff..because she thought I seemed like i might be on it...based (I guess) upon my posts and the tribes I moderated (on www.tribe.net )
The social anxiety tribe, adults who don't drive cars, dropped on the head as a child, lists of things to do, tribe for the socially inept...etc....

Shore nuff... :)