AS people seem more illogical then NT ppl why do u say Autst

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Logical does not mean "always true", it does not mean that everyone who is logical is going to agree or find some universal truth really, it just means that one reasonment is based more on logic (structured arguments are a way to use logic for example) than on feelings or that you can use your feelings in a logical way.

Many people here seem to be able to use logic and probably use it more often than some people, but that does not mean that no one should ever be talking about their feelings are disagreeing because their logical conclusion is different.

"All cats die. Socrates is dead. Therefore, Socrates was a cat" is considered to be a logical sentence though it really makes no sense when you think about the reality.


From what I have seen, people here analyse and think about things more than most people, but the conclusions can be just like "Socrates was a cat." in the end.
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And everyone is irrational or illogical sometimes, Autism does not mean that people are no longer humans. "Normal" people use logic too, I actually have a friend who is apparently perfectly NT (she has no diagnosis, have lots of knwoledges about Autism but does not claim any disorder, just introvertion and the fact that she was born in a family of introvert and hihgly religious people) and she is very rational and logical. This feature is also a human thing.

I think this is for two reasons.
1. Society separates logic and emotions instead of characterizing emotions as just another material factor in the universe that can be solved.
2. NTs have certain instincts that allow them to deal with their emotions.

I've taken to logically understanding my emotions. I've thought about why from the standpoint of natural selection we have certain emotions and about the kind of responses produced in the brain when we feel emotions. I also consider if in spite of how it evolved it might serve a new, unrelated purpose in some circumstances. Now I can sometimes with effort logically turn off an emotion if I tell myself there's no logical reason for me to experience it. I don't do this evaluation with positive emotions. Feeling positive emotions is logical by definition because "happiness" is the goal I am directing my logic towards.

For example, stress produces adrenaline i.e. a fight-flight response which is basically the brain priming the body for a possible necessary sudden physical reaction(both fighting and running away involve physical reaction). If I feel stressed I ask myself if I'm in a situation where sudden physical reaction might be beneficial. If it's not I turn the stress off.

I can also do this with pain if I decide that the signal I'm feeling isn't conveying anything of "grave importance".

First I had to convince myself this was actually possible. Logically, the brain is all one organ that experiences emotions, processes sensory information, and of course thinks. When we think and decide we send out impulses to act on these things. So with logic I'm communicating within my brain to shut off unwanted feelings and sensations.

I don't have much experience, but I get told that I think too much and I'm too logical. I get told this by my friends and others.

I am overly emotional, but I try to reason everything. When I feel strongly about something I try to figure out why and then think about everything that could have happened to make me think a certain way. So I look at my feelings from a logical standpoint. I wont act on my emotions if I see no logical reason to. My friends say I'm a robot and so does my family, it's bothersome.

Last edited by Scanner on 03 Nov 2010, 8:22 am, edited 1 time in total.

I don't think aspies are any less likely, overall, to be logical rather than emotional. What aspies do is use logical thinking instead of social thinking. Either our social thinking module is damaged, or we haven't trained it well enough, or we choose not to use it, and so we use logic instead. (Damaged isn't really the right word... more like, an unfixable developmental issue.)

So, less emotional aspies will come across as hyper-logical, but that's only a subset of aspies.

Your manner of wording your question could be seen as offensive, but I'm going to assume that you didn't mean it that way and so will overlook it in the wonderful way AS people have of switching off emotional reaction to respond to a situation.

Logic is something that depends on your perspective. To a non-autistic person, things that autistic people do may not seem 'logical'. To an autistic person, the things that non-autistic people do may not seem 'logical'. What's important is that neither interpretation is necessarily wrong. It's what's called 'subjectivity'.

There's a difference between opining that something is 'logical' and defining what 'logic' is.

On a personal note, I'm generally considered quite random by those I work with and by friends. I tend not to think of that as any part of me being autistic or not being autistic. Those are just fundamental parts of who I am. The advantage an autistic person has - and it's also a disadvantage because it's hard to understand if you're NOT autistic - is that we have no "predetermined rule" for any question or situation.

On the one hand, not seeing a clear solution can cause panic, fear and flight responses.

On the other hand, it can allow people with autism to see many many other pathways that people who aren't autistic may not see.

I really think this is a matter of individual interpretation.

Everyone's logic is different. What is logical is subjective.

So yeah, people who say autistic people are more logical, or NTs are less logical, really mean something else.

Edit: what applesauce said.

I've always been logical, but sometimes lacking in common sense which is something different.

I think its because people with AS have specialties most of the time and see the world differently from NTs. There are people like Albert Einstein and there are people with severe autism that needs constant super vision and there communication is very behind and they have to be treated carefully. I think it depends on the person with autism, I am hardly logical at all LOL

My husband has told me in the past I am being logical and lets not be logical. My mom also says I am too logical or very and sometimes people need emotional support and I am being too logical.

Only my two ex's said I was a robot but no one else has said it.

I don't know about the robot thing. Even Bender has better social skill than me.