Rather be an idiot than have no social skills?

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11 Nov 2010, 10:12 pm

Technically, wouldn't "NO social skills" imply that you couldn't communicate at all?



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11 Nov 2010, 10:12 pm

It's impossible to have 0 social skills. Very severely autistic people who cannot communicate through speech or typing or signs have at least have a couple. But between having a very small amount of social skills and keep my IQ and having a much lower IQ (75 and under) and having more social skills... the former. By far.



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11 Nov 2010, 11:03 pm

He considers me having a hard time out in public and talking to people means I have no social skills. I have social anxiety.



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11 Nov 2010, 11:18 pm

Scanner wrote:
He considers me having a hard time out in public and talking to people means I have no social skills. I have social anxiety.


Okay...

the guy can say what he wants about you, but it doesn't sound like he has any common sense.



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11 Nov 2010, 11:24 pm

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Scanner wrote:
He considers me having a hard time out in public and talking to people means I have no social skills. I have social anxiety.


Okay...

the guy can say what he wants about you, but it doesn't sound like he has any common sense.


That's funny, he then went on to say I lack all common sense.

I wouldn't mind have "better" social skills. I'm trying to learn though, which is good. I'm just not sure what to do most of the time to build the skills.



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12 Nov 2010, 2:44 am

i have a friend, who is autistic with a mental delay, she said to me her IQ is around the 70 mark, i just don't remember the number exactly. We have good conversations. sure, she likes to talk about her interests, but she knows to ask sometimes if i'm not getting bored. I'm not! i love to learn new things and incidently know nothing about her favourite subject.
She is more self aware than NTs from that point of view. And easier to talk to. and a nice person. i do sometimes innocently say something related to her social interest to get her going, because i know how it feels when people actually want to hear about it.
meaning i have SOME social skills the NTs wouldn't dream of having.
I think you're overthinking what was a very stupid comment on your cousin's behalf. but what i'm trying to say is, if i had the choice between having a low IQ and having no social skills, i would probably not now what to choose. the only thing i don't want to be is an arrogant bully. Which incidently is a mixture or average IQ and unused social skills. you're not playing the game if you don't make the best with what you've got.



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12 Nov 2010, 5:49 am

If I could have NT social skills at the cost of a few IQ points, I'd be willing to swap. I'd rather be average/so-so intelligence and be sociable than be above average intelligence and have so-so social skills.


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12 Nov 2010, 6:20 am

How many IQ points cost social skills? If not so many, I'd buy some.
Sometimes my knowledge is blocked by lack of SS, because I can't show it or I can't ask the proper people.

I'd never swap all my intelligence, logical mind or knowledge to become one of the NTs. I'd like to be considered introvertic and intelligent, but nice. Now I'm considered as conceited and weird psycho and people are happy when I fail something.


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12 Nov 2010, 6:24 am

I'd rather be an arrogant twat to people than be an idiot, aka. a person more like your brother. I can see what type of person he is like. And he's just being a real prick saying those things to you. It's not like you have any choice in the matter about what social skills you have.
I do come off as an annoying know-it-all to people. So I ignore my lack of social skills and still talk to people.


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12 Nov 2010, 8:25 am

I'd have answered "Hmmm, the joy of being an idiot seems to be that you're oblivious as to how obnoxious you are, so yes, I suppose it works for you. I see your point."

Then stroll off.



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12 Nov 2010, 1:53 pm

Scanner wrote:
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Would you rather be an idiot than have no social skills?
Yes, :pig:


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12 Nov 2010, 3:26 pm

I was actually told this by my first-grade teacher. I said something out-of-line (I think I'd said that a woman in a bikini in a picture of Tahiti was "sexy") and she replied in front of my class, "I'd rather have someone stupid but nice, like Marcus (a kid in my class with learning and speech difficulties), than a smart kid who was horrible, like you."

Now that I think about it, it must have hurt the both of us pretty badly. I know it did me.

Awful, awful woman...



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12 Nov 2010, 4:31 pm

Scanner wrote:
I got into an argument with my cousin, in which he bought up many idiotic points. I called him an idiot and he went on saying that he rather be an idiot than have no social skills like me. He also went on talking about how there must be something wrong with me and that I must be ret*d because I don't go out with friends. He then continued saying that I must be scared of people and just went on and on and I couldn't get a word in and he was so loud that it started to really bother me.

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Would you rather be an idiot than have no social skills?

The argument sounds counterproductive. Why would your cousin care if you go out or not? Why do relatives have to be loud? I can answer that. They want to embarrass you and put on a show for anyone they know who can hear so later they can ask, "didja hear what I said?" or, they can say, " I sure told him/her. Someone shoulda done that a long time ago!" It is annoying. I found one way to cope with it. When they start being loud like that just for the sake of embarrassing me, I walk away from them. If they are outside, I walk into the house leaving them outside talking loudly so they will look foolish.



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12 Nov 2010, 5:04 pm

Really depends on, as someone mentioned above, the amount of IQ points I'm trading for the amount of "social skills" points.

Although If we're talking suddenly gaining a very low IQ to gain better social skills, then I would rather remain smart. By far.



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13 Nov 2010, 12:54 am

you got owned by an NT get used to it i offer my condolences



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13 Nov 2010, 2:17 am

Easy answer. Who would possibly want to trade superior intelligence for social skills? I would rather have the intelligence.