Are most autistic persons highly sensitive or not?

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29 Dec 2010, 3:13 pm

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You see, applying any adjectives to expressions of emotions is at some level just displaying a combination of egocentrism and ignorance.


So lets not try to communicate at all.

Or if I'm pissed off I can just hit you with a big stick. Screw using words.


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29 Dec 2010, 3:19 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
So lets not try to communicate at all.

Or if I'm pissed off I can just hit you with a big stick. Screw using words.
Realizing communication generates illusions of understanding can do all sorts of weird things to your psyche. Even quitting communication suddenly becomes a plausible alternative. But hitting me with a stick is in fact communicating anger - or something. :lol:


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29 Dec 2010, 4:15 pm

Kenjuudo wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
So lets not try to communicate at all.

Or if I'm pissed off I can just hit you with a big stick. Screw using words.
Realizing communication generates illusions of understanding can do all sorts of weird things to your psyche. Even quitting communication suddenly becomes a plausible alternative. But hitting me with a stick is in fact communicating anger - or something. :lol:


No communication is perfect. Even hitting you with a stick communicates an approximation. You still don't know EXACTLY what I am feeling.

All we have are approximations no matter what the medium. And yet enough is communicated to allow a viable culture.


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29 Dec 2010, 4:29 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
No communication is perfect. Even hitting you with a stick communicates an approximation. You still don't know EXACTLY what I am feeling.

All we have are approximations no matter what the medium. And yet enough is communicated to allow a viable culture.
Exactly. And that is my whole point. This explains why terms like "strong feelings" are nonsensical. You don't know if they're strong compared to anybody else's feelings or their interpretation of the communicated feeling at any rate. You can only define if they're strong compared to your own less strong emotions. But that is still intangible for the person you're communicating with. He/she can only compare their individually interpreted communicated feelings with their own perceived feelings, and both, though agreeing, will be talking about feelings on different levels no matter the amount of adjectives or explanations.


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29 Dec 2010, 4:38 pm

Kenjuudo wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
No communication is perfect. Even hitting you with a stick communicates an approximation. You still don't know EXACTLY what I am feeling.

All we have are approximations no matter what the medium. And yet enough is communicated to allow a viable culture.
Exactly. And that is my whole point. This explains why terms like "strong feelings" are nonsensical. You don't know if they're strong compared to anybody else's feelings or their interpretation of the communicated feeling at any rate. You can only define if they're strong compared to your own less strong emotions. But that is still intangible for the person you're communicating with. He/she can only compare their individually interpreted communicated feelings with their own perceived feelings, and both, though agreeing, will be talking about feelings on different levels no matter the amount of adjectives or explanations.


Both of you: Semantics. Emotions are emotions and therefore not too well defined. Peace out 8)


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29 Dec 2010, 4:42 pm

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Both of you: Semantics. Emotions are emotions and therefore not too well defined. Peace out 8)
Hey! Don't kill the discussion right when I'm about to win! j/k :lmao:


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29 Dec 2010, 5:14 pm

Kenjuudo wrote:
This explains why terms like "strong feelings" are nonsensical. You don't know if they're strong compared to anybody else's feelings or their interpretation of the communicated feeling at any rate.


You are forgetting that emotions create measurable physiological responses. Fear generates adrenalin, but strong fear generates A LOT of adrenalin. Oxytocin is released by certain emotions, cortisol, etc ...


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29 Dec 2010, 5:38 pm

It is true that I cannot possibly understand the strength levels of someone else's emotions unless we are in a lab measuring someone else's levels of cortisol etc. However, it SEEMS to me that compared to most non-spectrum people that except for rage my emotions are on a severe time delay.



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29 Dec 2010, 5:45 pm

LabPet wrote:
Both of you: Semantics. Emotions are emotions and therefore not too well defined. Peace out 8)


I think you mean sophistry. 8)


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30 Dec 2010, 3:31 am

lol.

Interesting question! Before I joined WP, I thought the idea that people with AS felt fewer or less intense emotions was a myth NTs used to dehumanize people on the spectrum. But when I was here all the time 7 or 8 months ago, I found that people either said they have really intense emotions or that they weren't very emotional. Anyone else notice that? What do you think the ratio might be? Anyone think you're equally emotional to an NT?

(In case you're counting people with NVLD, I'm in the overly intense and emotionally reactive/everything shows on my face category, and I've been told I change emotional states too quickly. Obviously I don't have access to lab equipment all the time, so this is just based on comparing how I react to things and describe my emotions versus how other people around me seem to).



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