are these consistent with aspergers symptoms?
I just want to add that I have known many people who are diagnosed with AS who do lie; even compulsively. I do not think you can say that people with AS never lie, and never cheat. In the past, when I have lied, I would rationalize it in my head. I remember when I was really young; I would always say I had no homework, because it was overwhelming to me. Although, I find it impossible now to say something that isn't true, or call in to work when I'm not sick. I was not always consistent with my honesty.
I think I know where you're coming from though. There was a partner of mine who was pretty wacky, and I still feel as if I need to know categorically what was wrong with her.
The lying and cheating can happen. Sometimes it's just easier for them to do that instead of dealing with their problems. I don't condone it, I'm just trying to see it from their point of view.
Many of those traits are common in AS and he shouldn't be blamed for them. We have oversensitivity to noise and other senses and noise can really set me off. Scraping plates with forks are the worst. People with AS don't always get sarcasm and criticism can be seen as yelling.
He also sounds like he has anxiety. The sweating in bed. I used to do that when I was going out with an NT. I had the social phobia too.
And with not wanting to talk about what other people want to - we can only really talk about our interests. It's extremely difficult to try and talk about something else. That's where my severe social anxiety came from.
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Here are some of his traits:
NOT MEANINGFUL
- suffered from a stammer when growing up
- admits hes forgetful
- bullied at school for his stammer
- told me once when people are angry at him he gets one word that goes round and round in his brain (usually a swear word and he just wants shout it.
- poor handwriting
- excessive sweating at night - often bedsheets wet
- watches lots of sports but does'nt play any - he told me he always used to dread his dad making him play football)<<<NOT PLAYING IS A SYMPTOM!
talks to himself at the dinner table (this has now been noticed by the entire family, his mum once pulled me aside and asked me if i thought it was due to him smoking weed)
Grunts, snorts - bodily tics/twitches
Never talks to his sons about anything but football <<<COULD be an AS symptom, if Football is an interest of his and either the only one, or the only one they can discuss.
- flat footed - all of them are - very noisy
CONSISTENT
- has verbal outbursts when he feels attacked. however the first one i ever experienced was from me simply scarping my tooth on my folk whilst eating - he went absolutely crazy.
- fear of meeting new people in big crowds
- lack of understanding of other peoples feelings
- mild obsession with bus and tube maps
- hate of wanting to talk or communicate about things that might matter to the other person
- inability to focus in meetings and you finds himself drifting off playing with things on a table
- anxiety
- counting corners of rooms
- has a superficial relationship with most of his friends that involves mostly drinking, occasional recreational drugs and pubs
- severe procrastination in personal life and work matters
- comes out with very offensive comments to people sometimes and then has complete confusion as to why he said it,
- at the beginning of our relationship if i made a sacastic joke he would get really offended. I would tell him i was only being sarcastic, but he still didnt get it
- would take advice as criticism and have a verbal outburst at me
- often if i would approach him with something i wasnt happy about - he would have an outburst then tell me to shut up and let him go away and deal with it. Sometimes id let him (hard as he could spend two days not talking to me) but he would always come back with his head hung down and say the reason he gets so angry sometimes is because he knows sometimes im right about certain things...
- hypersensitive to touch anywhere on his body especially legs and feet. im trained in massage - tried to give him one once and it was impossible. if i ever tried to tickle him in bed - hed get really angry.
- awkward physical movements
- he never liked going on holidays when he was little - his mum told me about this. She said he hated going on holidays. He would always get an ear infection that they'd need to see a doctor for abroad. and as soon as the car would turn the corner and he was back on his street he would get overly excited and happy
- was not interested in booking holidays with me - i would have to do it all - he would go and love it when he got there, but admits that he just doesnt care where we go etc...
- tapping his fingers (forefinger and thumb)usually whilst watching tv - he said this was something he learnt when learning to control his stammer.
- he sees behaviours as right or wrong
- he split up with me. When he did - one of the things he said to me was he couldnt bare that i was constantly hurt by some some of his behaviours
- can never sit still - other people would comment on this all the time - as well as the fact that people always would say to me - we dont know how you do it. He never listens.
His brother shouts - instead of talks at a reasonable volume
Has very uncoordinated body movements
His dad rarely makes eye contact and if he does its very flitting - speaks about very superficial things - usually just makes jokes that no one gets.
when walking and around the house - clumsy etc
NOT CONSISTENT
- has a history of cheating on all his girlfriends <<<HOWEVER, this doesn't make sense because of how he broke up with you.
<<<NOT PLAYING IS A SYMPTOM!
<<<COULD be an AS symptom, if Football is an interest of his and either the only one, or the only one they can discuss.
Yes....I read of a very Aspie rugby player, so I don't see why not football. If a thing fascinates us enough it's amazing what we can achieve, even with seemingly complicated socially-based stuff like sport.
This point alone should be the reason not to be involved with him romantically.
As for his 'symptoms' ... it certainly seems to run in the family so its likely he does have something. You listed few 'typical' AS traits... so to me it looks more like a severe bipolar disorder plus anxiety disorder/HFA. The part that he constantly cheats is in my opinion indicative that its probably not AS. We have a damn hard time forming relationships as it is and lying/deceiving is rather hard to do... yet he seems to do it with ease.